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Air Forces has announced that applying

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disc has been found and is now in the

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possession of the army

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game is rigged change the game game

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changer I occasionally think how quickly

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our difference is worldwide would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is Fade to Black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer Radio

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all right welcome Fade to Black today's

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Monday November 28 2022 and our guest

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tonight is Danny Sheehan and we are

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going to be discussing uh 2022 UFOs uaps

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and uh you know moving into uh 2023 uh

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the current state of disclosure and what

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the position is in Washington DC and the

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Pentagon and of course the long delayed

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UFO U of P report now

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Danny is a graduate of Harvard Law

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School he's got a long and distinguished

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history of public interest Council and

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was legal counsel in the Pentagon papers

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case uh Iran Contra Three Mile Island

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and the Karen silkwood cases as well as

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many other high-profile cases he shares

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the responsibility for formula a

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formulation of a world view that

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represents one or more extraterrestrial

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civilizations are presently visiting our

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planet and interacting with members of

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our species and I would like to welcome

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the one and only Danny Sheehan Danny

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good evening young man good evening

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Jimmy good to see you after turkey day

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yeah happy turkey day to you uh we just

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uh had a chance to hang out a couple of

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weeks ago here in Los Angeles it was

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great to see you and um I I I want to

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I want to jump straight into uh the

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conversation tonight which is

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um for the first time in in history

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we're at a tangible moment where things

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you've it feels like we can reach out

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and touch disclosure and the UFO

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question and Washington seems to

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um maybe want to become our friends and

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that that's where we are today what's

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your what's your take on that well uh

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I'm glad you asked uh this this all

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circulates of course around you know the

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Senate bill 4503. this is the the brand

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new Step that has been taken by the

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Congress of the United States of the

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actual elected representatives of the uh

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of the people that have for the very

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first time uh in the you know 75-year

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recent history of this particular

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phenomenon where they've actually stood

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up on their hind legs and and stood up

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and said that look uh we are insisting

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upon being brief now uh by all of the

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defense department agencies all of the

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intelligence Community agencies and all

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of the private contractors that have

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been involved in investigating this UFO

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UAP phenomenon over the past 75 years

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and you're going to brief us and we're

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they're establishing an office a joint

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office to investigate the UAP phenomenon

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uh which is going to be chaired by a

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director who's going to be appointed by

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the Secretary of Defense there's an

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assistant director that's going to be

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mandated in the in the bill that it be

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that it be appropriated all of the money

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to do a number of things uh some of them

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specific procedure uh pursuant to which

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all of the different employees in the

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government are mandated to report the

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information that they have about the UAP

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phenomenon in UFOs uh to the to the uh

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department and other Appropriations

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United States uh in that they have to be

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uh giving them an update on what the

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most recent sightings have been this is

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extraordinary yeah well let me jump in

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right there before we let that very

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important Point uh get past us it was

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um so

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it felt like that was law right that

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this was uh this was a man that this was

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um is is there a reason why nobody paid

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attention to that date yeah what's

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happened here is everybody now knows

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that the the Congress has basically

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semi effort that was being made by the

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executive branch itself when the when

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forward in back in 2017 December and

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revealed to the world uh on the front

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pages of the New York Times that UFOs

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are real and that the United States

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Pentagon knows that they're real they've

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been concealing this for decades uh what

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what happened is the the at first as you

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department denied that it was true

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nothing going on there's nothing going

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on here uh but then they finally had to

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the advanced Aerospace threat

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identification uh project that Lou

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director of there's no such thing and

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a pseudo project inside the Office of

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force uh and but they didn't appoint

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anybody to it I interviewed the people

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that were staff for the for atip that

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task force nothing was happening uh so

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department said okay look we're going to

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Office of Naval intelligence but the

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so what happened is the Congress came

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forward you know LED jointly uh by both

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political parties you know that uh that

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senator uh and you had Warner from

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Virginia the chairman and vice chairman

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our teeth here Congress and we're going

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to pass a law we're going to put into

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authorization Bill the the funding of

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mandate the setting up of a really

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meaningful office to to Garner together

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all of this information and evidence do

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an analysis of it to set up a capacity

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investigation of these things this is an

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camouflage effort that was going to be

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intelligence and nobody nobody was

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taking that serious uh and so that what

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as I say there's 13 pages of it going

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into extreme detail and you can tell

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they brought on their staff of lawyers

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to say look at let's figure out how not

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to give the executive branch any wiggle

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room to get out of this thing

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now there are a handful of things and we

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can go through some of them uh but you

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positive features about this proposed

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law uh and there are some weak points

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that it still has uh and I've I've gone

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through the thing a hundred times you

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can see it here there's all kinds of

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highlighting all kinds of green

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underlining of the good things redlining

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under the things that are that are bad

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like fashion I've gone through the thing

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bill at the Senate to try to get them to

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close up some of these red spots

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original draft of the bill that anybody

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in the government who wanted to uh

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report information about a UFO to this

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office had to first get interviewed by

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the FBI to see whether uh I don't know

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what the reason was but it was it was

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clear that that would function as a

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substantial deterrent to a lot of people

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interviewed by the FBI and they come to

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a conclusion that you've misrepresented

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anything to them they got to charge they

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can charge you with a crime yeah so that

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only one obviously anybody with a

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political IQ above room temperature knew

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you had to get the FBI out of this so

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they put they pushed them out and so

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there's no requirement like that here

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anymore and they've set up a very

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important whistleblower provision in

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here that that absolutely nothing can be

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done to to retali in any way whatsoever

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against any anybody who comes forward

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and gives them the information that they

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have and they've got a specific

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provision in here setting aside any any

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non-disclosure agreements okay I've

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never entered into before let's let's

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uh Danny you're used to it over the

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um when you sign these security Oaths

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and these ndas there is a threat of

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imprisonment and you know that classic

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nullified yeah you know well it's not

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just non-disclosure because that under

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the previous non-disclosure agreements

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that were operative if anybody came

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forward and tried to tell their Senator

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or congress person or anybody in the

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Congress like this about the the

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information they had they could be

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charged with violating their their

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non-disclosure agreement what they've

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done here in the statute is they've set

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aside

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those previous non-disclosure agreements

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with regard to the staff of this office

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so that they can come forward that

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doesn't even go and tell the New York

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Times or get up on the you know street

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corner and start telling everybody about

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it but they've opened up the channel now

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for all this information to flow into uh

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into these senators and Congress people

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so this is this is an absolute watershed

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moment uh actually in the disclosure the

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official disclosure dynamic in history

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you know there have been all kinds of

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stuff you and I've been at this for

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decades now and so they've been all

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kinds of progress made with regard to

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revealing more and more information

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about all of this and people have done

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great work on this Richard Dolan has

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done his two volumes you know digging

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government documents out and showing

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everybody and they've been you know

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literally dozens of people who've been

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devoting their lives to trying to get

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this done because they knew the

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importance of this extraordinarily

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important subject but now what's

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happened is the Congress of the United

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States has moved in uh and you've gotten

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elected political officials who's in

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whose interests it is in their their

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elected interests to get something done

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about this moving in now there's not any

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doubt in my mind that the the powers

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that be within the executive branch and

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within the major corporations that are

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the contractors are going to push back

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against this thing and try to put

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pressure on the various senators and

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Congress people not to really do

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anything about this there's no doubt

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about that uh but but what we're doing

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I'm in the process now of setting up a

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separate a brand new 501c3 public

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interest organization that will in fact

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duplicate everything that's going on

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here and we're going to use this exact

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Bill all the details all the divisions

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all the criteria everything and then

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what we're going to do is going to

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undertake

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to try to bring everybody in the

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community together into a coordinated

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process of sharing all of our

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information that we have about this all

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the different reports we have about this

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event these reports and and get on top

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of this this office to make sure that

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these senators and Congress people do

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not fold in the face of this kind of

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response that we know is going to be

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coming primarily from the major uh

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defense industry people who want to

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capture this technology and capitalize

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on it and make as much money as they can

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on it and also elements darker elements

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inside the defense department

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that view any any type of uh incursion

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into Earthly airspace as being somehow a

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violation of their mission uh if they're

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not in charge of that and can't dominate

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it and control it so there's a a

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reflexive reaction on the part of people

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inside the defense department to

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perceive the entire phenomenon as some

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type of not only threat but to be candid

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about it an opportunity

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to increase their funding in a

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bureaucratic way and so that we know

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that those elements are going to be

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operative here and so what we need to do

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is have this new 501c3 organization is

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sort of the UFO C3

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you know to have this have this thing

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put together get it funded in a

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substantial way and what I've done is

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I've I'm reaching out to a number of the

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the major uh uh programs that are going

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on uh commercial programs that are going

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on around the country uh trying to

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capitalize on this and on television

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shows and all that stuff and say look

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if you guys really want to have

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objective information to report on uh

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and to know who to interview and things

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like this what you ought to do is you

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ought to have the people that are your

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financial backers and your supporters

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you know whatever tax deductible

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contributions that they're going to

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choose to actually make have them go to

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this UFO C3 yeah and so the it'll have

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the kind of financing the kind of Staff

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the kind of professionalism that will be

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necessary what we want to do is we want

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to we want to uh duplicate to the

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greatest possible degree that we can the

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actual functions of this office that are

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being set up inside the United States

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Congress now we know that we don't have

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the security clearances uh that will

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cause us people in the military for

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example become rushing into us and here

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let us tell you too what we know but we

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have all kinds of other people that are

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going to be coming and talking to us and

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we're going to be setting up protocols

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pursuant to which we're going to be able

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to protect the confidential sources who

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come to us and if somebody comes to a

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member of the Senate or the the office

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of this

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invest this joint investigative office

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and they're not responded to

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or they're pushed away in any way then

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we're going to be available for them to

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come to us and so we're going to be able

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to interview them we're going to be able

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to represent them we're going to be able

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to

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bring causes of action you know in

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federal court there is a federal court

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uh provision in this here uh if anybody

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is punished or in any way retaliated

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against for bringing this information

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here to the to this committee or this

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office then they have a cause of action

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in the federal district court regular

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federal court lawsuit uh there's a I

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mean this is extraordinary this is a

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cause of action that's been created by

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the United States Congress to give a a

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citizen the right to bring an action in

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front of the United States courts uh

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do you do you have a UFO judge in mind

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okay well they're all going to be a

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little surprised but the fact is almost

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all the judges have ever come in front

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of 50 years turned out to be surprised

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about the case that we brought you know

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whether it's Three Mile Island or the

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Karen silkwood case or Iran Contra or

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any of the others are always going oh no

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please give me a simple divorce case you

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know or a broken leg case

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but that's always been the case right

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where you get the attorneys talking to

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their clients look this guy is a good

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UFO judge I don't know they don't have

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them yet they don't have them yet I can

446
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tell you the the first the first one who

447
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gets one of these cases is uh May what

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may well become the go-to person yeah

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exactly let me uh swing back to your

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point about uh Congress right now we're

451
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getting ready we just got done with the

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midterms right so we've got a new

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Congress rolling in in January how does

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this affect things well it's interesting

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the one of the great advantages is is

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that that Lou Elizondo and Chris Mellon

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and the other people who've been working

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over on the hill to go talk to people

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have been extraordinarily smart about

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this and they've gone to both political

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parties they've done it so that neither

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one of the two political parties has any

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specific advantage over the other with

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regard to this issue you know they both

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spent you know 75 years trying to not

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touch it at all and once it become

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became famous and even the defense

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department acknowledged that this was

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real they both realized they had they

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had to take a position on this

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unfortunately uh in in Chris melon

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especially I think has been extremely

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effective at this at making this

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information available on an even-handed

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way to both people in both parties and

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so that they've joined together now as a

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coalition to bring this forward the

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Congress feels that it's been slighted

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you know over all these past 75 years by

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the executive branch lying to them

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deceiving them holding information away

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from them frightening them intimidating

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them you know and so now they're they're

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stepping forward here and so I believe I

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believe that we have an extraordinary

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opportunity here as I say let's be

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really clear about the fact that the

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same forces that have been hiding this

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for all these decades are going to

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continue to try to do so you know

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they're not just going to roll over on

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us and say oh gee on second thought

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we're going to come clean on this

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they're not going to do that so this is

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going to be a push and pull operation

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but we have members of Congress on our

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side now uh and we have committees

498
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entire committees the intelligence

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committee defense department and defense

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committee the problem is that at the

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present time this whole issue is still

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being prisoned through the lens of

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military defense

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uh in kind of military intelligence

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they're still they're still in this kind

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of dialectical mindset

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about this because you go down through

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the entire Bill and you don't really

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have state department people in here you

510
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don't have uh you know there's there's

511
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it is a recommendation here that they

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brief the Foreign Relations Committee

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the Senate Foreign Relations Committee

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the house Foreign Relations Committee

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which is really important

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but there's all kinds still way too much

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language in here about you know threats

518
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and adversary Nations unless but there's

519
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some extraordinary language in here for

520
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example they've got a definition of what

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they're referring to here as these uh

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the unidentified aerial phenomenon or

523
00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:01,980
undersea phenomena they specifically say

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that this definition excludes

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they say that right in the bill they

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they do and and that's an important

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point because of some of the chatter uh

528
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going around the UFO Community now I

529
00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:22,980
don't know if it's opinions or if

530
00:26:26,930 --> 00:26:25,260
somebody's got uh some leaked

531
00:26:30,769 --> 00:26:26,940
information but there was a lot of

532
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chatter about the UFO report uh that was

533
00:26:37,970 --> 00:26:34,260
going to change direction from the last

534
00:26:41,690 --> 00:26:37,980
UAP task force report that this was

535
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China that this was a foreign adversary

536
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and most of these can now be explained

537
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that's in direct contrast to the last

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report when they said it wasn't us it

539
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was they know it's not us they know it's

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not China right and the guys the guys

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that I've talked to I mean I I

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00:27:01,610 --> 00:26:59,400
fortunately as you know I'm I'm

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00:27:04,669 --> 00:27:01,620
privileged actually to get to represent

544
00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:04,679
Lou Elizondo and uh we have we have a

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meeting coming up on December 8th you

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know with the inspector General's Office

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of the entire higher intelligence

548
00:27:15,049 --> 00:27:12,539
Community now to talk about all this

549
00:27:17,570 --> 00:27:15,059
stuff and the the the the the fact the

550
00:27:20,210 --> 00:27:17,580
fact of the matter is that you know we

551
00:27:22,610 --> 00:27:20,220
know that they know that this is not

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00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:22,620
China uh because you know guys like Lou

553
00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:24,480
and melon and the other company they can

554
00:27:29,450 --> 00:27:27,120
say look at let me clue you in here we

555
00:27:31,610 --> 00:27:29,460
know what the Chinese have got and this

556
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:31,620
ain't it you know it certainly wouldn't

557
00:27:39,470 --> 00:27:34,799
have been China in 1984. no you know

558
00:27:41,630 --> 00:27:39,480
2004. or 47 as Lucia or 84.

559
00:27:43,490 --> 00:27:41,640
um but but clearly nobody had that kind

560
00:27:47,029 --> 00:27:43,500
of Technology during the Nimitz

561
00:27:48,890 --> 00:27:47,039
encounter no and and when Lou Lou and I

562
00:27:51,769 --> 00:27:48,900
gave an interview to the uh the

563
00:27:53,330 --> 00:27:51,779
Associated Press guys in preparation for

564
00:27:55,850 --> 00:27:53,340
the big report that came out a couple

565
00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:55,860
years ago and they brought in their big

566
00:28:01,669 --> 00:27:58,799
guns from AP and they said uh now look

567
00:28:04,010 --> 00:28:01,679
uh uh what are you saying what are you

568
00:28:06,590 --> 00:28:04,020
saying uh the origin of these things are

569
00:28:08,570 --> 00:28:06,600
and what what Lou said to them says look

570
00:28:09,710 --> 00:28:08,580
I can tell you this you know I've been

571
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:09,720
at this a long time and I've talked

572
00:28:13,850 --> 00:28:11,520
about virtually everybody we know it's

573
00:28:16,250 --> 00:28:13,860
not China and and we know it's not

574
00:28:18,529 --> 00:28:16,260
Russia and we while we've got some

575
00:28:20,690 --> 00:28:18,539
fairly sophisticated you know highly

576
00:28:22,130 --> 00:28:20,700
developed craft it's nothing like this

577
00:28:24,169 --> 00:28:22,140
you know and so that we're telling you

578
00:28:26,090 --> 00:28:24,179
it isn't that at all and so they said

579
00:28:28,490 --> 00:28:26,100
well what do you what do you what do you

580
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:28,500
think it is he said well most of the

581
00:28:32,690 --> 00:28:29,760
people that are involved in this

582
00:28:34,909 --> 00:28:32,700
professionally uh in in classified

583
00:28:36,350 --> 00:28:34,919
programs believe that the source is

584
00:28:38,830 --> 00:28:36,360
extraterrestrial

585
00:28:41,149 --> 00:28:38,840
and the guy the guy looked at me said

586
00:28:43,310 --> 00:28:41,159
extraterrestrial yeah so you're actually

587
00:28:45,289 --> 00:28:43,320
saying that that there's like you know

588
00:28:48,590 --> 00:28:45,299
vehicles coming from an extraterrestrial

589
00:28:51,049 --> 00:28:48,600
civilization to our planet and Lou said

590
00:28:54,649 --> 00:28:51,059
yes that's what that's what it appears

591
00:28:56,330 --> 00:28:54,659
it appears to be uh and so he said in

592
00:28:59,330 --> 00:28:56,340
the one of the reasons we know it's not

593
00:29:02,510 --> 00:28:59,340
uh China he says because or Russia he

594
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:02,520
said back in 1947 and that's the date he

595
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:05,520
took he said back in 1947 which is

596
00:29:10,730 --> 00:29:06,960
revealing to all of us who know about

597
00:29:12,769 --> 00:29:10,740
Roswell back in 1947 Russia had just

598
00:29:15,169 --> 00:29:12,779
gotten through you know World War II

599
00:29:16,850 --> 00:29:15,179
they lost 20 million people you know

600
00:29:18,350 --> 00:29:16,860
they they were tearing up railroad

601
00:29:20,210 --> 00:29:18,360
tracks all the way from Europe into

602
00:29:22,010 --> 00:29:20,220
Russia tried to get metal to have back

603
00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:22,020
into their country they didn't have any

604
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:24,000
capacity to have a technology like this

605
00:29:29,810 --> 00:29:27,840
and he said China he said China in 1947

606
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:29,820
he said their their principal mode of

607
00:29:36,649 --> 00:29:32,640
transportation was cart was wooden carts

608
00:29:39,250 --> 00:29:36,659
with stone Wheels with horses so this is

609
00:29:41,630 --> 00:29:39,260
not China and they've been around since

610
00:29:44,049 --> 00:29:41,640
1947. we've been observing this

611
00:29:47,930 --> 00:29:44,059
technology he said since

612
00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:47,940
1947. uh it could be Canada though yeah

613
00:29:54,169 --> 00:29:50,399
right it could be Canada

614
00:29:55,549 --> 00:29:54,179
um and and and not to put uh light on

615
00:29:59,690 --> 00:29:55,559
this

616
00:30:02,510 --> 00:29:59,700
um but today uh the reports are are now

617
00:30:05,930 --> 00:30:02,520
that but the United States is going to

618
00:30:08,930 --> 00:30:05,940
now kick start its Hypersonic missile

619
00:30:12,350 --> 00:30:08,940
program to catch back up to the uh to

620
00:30:15,470 --> 00:30:12,360
Gretchen the Chinese and and that

621
00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:15,480
Hypersonic missiles are not this

622
00:30:26,570 --> 00:30:22,850
this uh the even even Hypersonic

623
00:30:29,090 --> 00:30:26,580
missiles are comparable to Ox carts with

624
00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:29,100
with stone compared to this compared to

625
00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:31,440
this yeah this this stuff this stuff uh

626
00:30:35,930 --> 00:30:34,080
functions almost interdimensionally this

627
00:30:37,970 --> 00:30:35,940
is this is so a completely

628
00:30:40,010 --> 00:30:37,980
flabbergasting to the all the people

629
00:30:41,210 --> 00:30:40,020
that are up close to this thing that

630
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:41,220
they're just stunned because now they're

631
00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:42,960
now they're talking to each other now a

632
00:30:48,649 --> 00:30:46,020
lot more uh and so this this uh this is

633
00:30:50,810 --> 00:30:48,659
an extraordinary moment Jimmy that with

634
00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:50,820
this committee or this this office is

635
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:52,620
going to be set up we'll have to see who

636
00:30:56,450 --> 00:30:54,480
it is that they're going to appoint and

637
00:30:57,950 --> 00:30:56,460
the probabilities are they're going to

638
00:30:59,810 --> 00:30:57,960
be people that lean a little heavily

639
00:31:02,029 --> 00:30:59,820
into the direction of it being kind of

640
00:31:03,710 --> 00:31:02,039
military defense and trying to get at

641
00:31:06,409 --> 00:31:03,720
the technology and see if they can

642
00:31:08,510 --> 00:31:06,419
reproduce it and make weapons of it all

643
00:31:10,669 --> 00:31:08,520
that stuff is all these human

644
00:31:13,610 --> 00:31:10,679
vicissitudes are still operational here

645
00:31:16,130 --> 00:31:13,620
but the point is that we we as a

646
00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:16,140
community have to come together now

647
00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:19,440
and put together an office that is

648
00:31:24,769 --> 00:31:22,320
comparable because now we've been in a

649
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:24,779
certain sense authorized to do this now

650
00:31:28,970 --> 00:31:26,640
I mean the citizenry we are the the

651
00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:28,980
Democratic forces of our country you

652
00:31:32,810 --> 00:31:31,440
know the Congress represents us and but

653
00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:32,820
but the fact of the matter is they don't

654
00:31:36,529 --> 00:31:34,799
replace us and they don't they don't

655
00:31:38,029 --> 00:31:36,539
take our place well you know we know

656
00:31:39,230 --> 00:31:38,039
that they're subject to all kinds of

657
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:39,240
political pressures and financial

658
00:31:44,029 --> 00:31:42,000
pressures and everything else but the

659
00:31:45,049 --> 00:31:44,039
fact of the matter is that what we're

660
00:31:46,850 --> 00:31:45,059
going to do is we're going to get a look

661
00:31:48,830 --> 00:31:46,860
at their budget we're going to get a

662
00:31:50,630 --> 00:31:48,840
look at their budget lines that have to

663
00:31:52,490 --> 00:31:50,640
be made public on the on the on the

664
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:52,500
websites and we're going to try to match

665
00:31:57,950 --> 00:31:55,679
all of those and we're going to major

666
00:31:59,690 --> 00:31:57,960
funders major people all throughout the

667
00:32:01,909 --> 00:31:59,700
country the business community and the

668
00:32:02,630 --> 00:32:01,919
entertainment industry all across the

669
00:32:04,970 --> 00:32:02,640
country

670
00:32:06,889 --> 00:32:04,980
and say look we're we're not something

671
00:32:09,049 --> 00:32:06,899
like the to the Stars Academy there's no

672
00:32:11,090 --> 00:32:09,059
commercial Venture uh underway here at

673
00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:11,100
all uh we're not trying to make a buck

674
00:32:15,409 --> 00:32:12,960
on this thing what we're trying to do is

675
00:32:17,810 --> 00:32:15,419
to put together a genuinely professional

676
00:32:19,730 --> 00:32:17,820
caliber staff you know so that they're

677
00:32:22,549 --> 00:32:19,740
going to be matching step for step what

678
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:22,559
this office is doing and if they misstep

679
00:32:26,690 --> 00:32:24,960
and they don't do their job you know

680
00:32:29,510 --> 00:32:26,700
we're going to move in to do their job

681
00:32:32,570 --> 00:32:29,520
for them uh the American people are not

682
00:32:34,730 --> 00:32:32,580
going to stand by and allow our

683
00:32:37,070 --> 00:32:34,740
representatives to be coerced or pushed

684
00:32:38,269 --> 00:32:37,080
back or intimidated you know by the

685
00:32:41,450 --> 00:32:38,279
forces that have been trying to keep

686
00:32:43,310 --> 00:32:41,460
this thing secret for 75 years so that's

687
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:43,320
that's the moment that we find ourselves

688
00:32:47,930 --> 00:32:46,080
in right now now what's uh what's what's

689
00:32:49,370 --> 00:32:47,940
the chatter what are you hearing about

690
00:32:53,330 --> 00:32:49,380
this report

691
00:32:55,730 --> 00:32:53,340
well the the the the the fact is the the

692
00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:55,740
fact is that there were never they were

693
00:33:00,470 --> 00:32:59,039
never uh the UAP task force inside the

694
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:00,480
office and they will tell us has never

695
00:33:05,090 --> 00:33:03,360
been a legitimate operation no really I

696
00:33:07,070 --> 00:33:05,100
can just tell you it was never because

697
00:33:08,750 --> 00:33:07,080
the guy who the guy who got assigned was

698
00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:08,760
the one person who was put on the staff

699
00:33:13,370 --> 00:33:11,039
you know didn't even didn't even have an

700
00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:13,380
office didn't even know didn't even know

701
00:33:16,669 --> 00:33:15,120
what he was supposed to be doing you

702
00:33:18,649 --> 00:33:16,679
know I had I had lunch with him a number

703
00:33:19,850 --> 00:33:18,659
of times and he was just befuddled you

704
00:33:21,889 --> 00:33:19,860
know he said wait what is this they're

705
00:33:23,930 --> 00:33:21,899
talking about having a new UAP test

706
00:33:26,990 --> 00:33:23,940
there's no at passports there's nothing

707
00:33:29,389 --> 00:33:27,000
going on here you know and so that this

708
00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:29,399
this this uh bubbling up oh there's

709
00:33:33,049 --> 00:33:31,200
going to be a new report about this you

710
00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:33,059
know that what this is is the forces

711
00:33:38,210 --> 00:33:35,279
inside the the military defense

712
00:33:40,250 --> 00:33:38,220
establishment were trying to figure out

713
00:33:42,669 --> 00:33:40,260
what to do you know I mean they they

714
00:33:45,049 --> 00:33:42,679
didn't know you know

715
00:33:47,389 --> 00:33:45,059
I won't say it but anyway they didn't

716
00:33:51,230 --> 00:33:47,399
know what to do are you suggesting that

717
00:33:54,289 --> 00:33:51,240
OD and I uh VOD and I yeah it is not

718
00:33:57,769 --> 00:33:54,299
communicating with the task force right

719
00:33:59,389 --> 00:33:57,779
now and and who did they answer to there

720
00:34:00,649 --> 00:33:59,399
there is no there is no functional task

721
00:34:02,450 --> 00:34:00,659
force right now

722
00:34:04,610 --> 00:34:02,460
there's no functional Task Force at all

723
00:34:06,110 --> 00:34:04,620
it's just a total ruse you know they

724
00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:06,120
point to Scott to be the head of the

725
00:34:09,409 --> 00:34:07,440
thing Scott I don't know is he ever went

726
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:09,419
to the office you know I mean there's

727
00:34:14,329 --> 00:34:11,520
nothing happening there because they

728
00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:14,339
know that this new office is going to

729
00:34:18,290 --> 00:34:16,020
completely supplant anything they do

730
00:34:20,750 --> 00:34:18,300
you're talking about Scott Bray yeah

731
00:34:23,149 --> 00:34:20,760
that's right there's there's nobody's

732
00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:23,159
doing anything you know in anything that

733
00:34:26,089 --> 00:34:24,720
they're doing is not worth paying

734
00:34:28,430 --> 00:34:26,099
attention to because all it is is

735
00:34:29,450 --> 00:34:28,440
obfuscation you know still trying to you

736
00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:29,460
know pretend that they're doing

737
00:34:33,649 --> 00:34:31,440
something but the fact of the matter is

738
00:34:35,629 --> 00:34:33,659
this major office is getting set to be

739
00:34:39,409 --> 00:34:35,639
set up here is going to just completely

740
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:39,419
overshadow and as you'll see in the bill

741
00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:43,200
itself the task force is terminated

742
00:34:48,109 --> 00:34:46,560
the moment this thing is passed and it

743
00:34:49,669 --> 00:34:48,119
says that so you know you're not going

744
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:49,679
to get people investing an awful lot of

745
00:34:52,669 --> 00:34:51,599
time and energy in doing something when

746
00:34:54,849 --> 00:34:52,679
they know they're getting set to be

747
00:34:58,430 --> 00:34:54,859
terminated as soon as the bill is passed

748
00:35:01,010 --> 00:34:58,440
worded in the bill that there will be a

749
00:35:03,770 --> 00:35:01,020
new uh organization immediately

750
00:35:05,630 --> 00:35:03,780
established well no what what it is is

751
00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:05,640
that they're they're insisting that the

752
00:35:11,329 --> 00:35:08,640
that it be set up set up within 120 days

753
00:35:12,770 --> 00:35:11,339
after the the uh thing so that's you

754
00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:12,780
know that's like four they've got four

755
00:35:16,609 --> 00:35:14,400
months to get the whole thing put all

756
00:35:18,349 --> 00:35:16,619
together after they pass this but but

757
00:35:20,450 --> 00:35:18,359
the bottom line is there nothing's going

758
00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:20,460
to happen during that four month period

759
00:35:25,150 --> 00:35:23,280
because there is no UAP functional task

760
00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:25,160
force

761
00:35:31,490 --> 00:35:29,280
has the current ndaa been signed off and

762
00:35:34,130 --> 00:35:31,500
dated No No what's no what's going on

763
00:35:37,130 --> 00:35:34,140
here remember this is part of the the

764
00:35:39,230 --> 00:35:37,140
federal budget the the the defense

765
00:35:41,569 --> 00:35:39,240
authorization Act is part of the federal

766
00:35:43,730 --> 00:35:41,579
budget process and what's going on right

767
00:35:45,950 --> 00:35:43,740
now is you asked that question a moment

768
00:35:48,170 --> 00:35:45,960
ago about what effect if any has the new

769
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:48,180
election had and one of the things

770
00:35:53,450 --> 00:35:50,400
that's happening right now is that

771
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:53,460
some of these Rogue elements uh that are

772
00:35:56,810 --> 00:35:54,720
that have come to dominate the

773
00:35:59,030 --> 00:35:56,820
Republican party now that they've taken

774
00:36:01,069 --> 00:35:59,040
over the House of Representatives uh

775
00:36:03,650 --> 00:36:01,079
where where budget legislation is

776
00:36:06,890 --> 00:36:03,660
initiated that they're threatening to

777
00:36:08,569 --> 00:36:06,900
not approve the federal budgets that are

778
00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:08,579
being proposed by the executive branch

779
00:36:13,490 --> 00:36:10,800
right I I don't want to get too

780
00:36:15,650 --> 00:36:13,500
political here we kind of have to but

781
00:36:17,390 --> 00:36:15,660
you do just just the reality of it is

782
00:36:19,130 --> 00:36:17,400
that people from an objective point of

783
00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:19,140
view know what they're doing and they've

784
00:36:21,770 --> 00:36:20,160
called for it they're going to try to

785
00:36:23,089 --> 00:36:21,780
block they're going to try to block the

786
00:36:26,329 --> 00:36:23,099
appropriation they're going to try to

787
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,339
not approve the federal budget so the

788
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:28,079
Biden Administration cuts out a whole

789
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:30,000
bunch of these social programs that they

790
00:36:34,490 --> 00:36:32,640
want gone sure sure Danny I need you to

791
00:36:37,310 --> 00:36:34,500
because I'm not the smartest guy when it

792
00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:37,320
comes to Capitol Hill so explain to me

793
00:36:43,970 --> 00:36:41,520
the process that is involved here it I

794
00:36:46,130 --> 00:36:43,980
it's my understanding that this has to

795
00:36:50,030 --> 00:36:46,140
get done by December 31st the new

796
00:36:51,470 --> 00:36:50,040
Congress comes in in January right am I

797
00:36:53,210 --> 00:36:51,480
understanding yeah but they're they're

798
00:36:56,750 --> 00:36:53,220
they're they're doing they they've had

799
00:36:58,670 --> 00:36:56,760
continuing resolutions uh going uh all

800
00:37:00,230 --> 00:36:58,680
the way up until until this time but

801
00:37:02,030 --> 00:37:00,240
what's what's happening now is there's

802
00:37:04,849 --> 00:37:02,040
either going to be an attempt to in

803
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:04,859
introduce a new continuing resolution to

804
00:37:08,990 --> 00:37:06,720
get over to jedia they get they get

805
00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:09,000
sworn in the first the I guess the 10th

806
00:37:13,250 --> 00:37:10,740
or something like that of January

807
00:37:14,270 --> 00:37:13,260
and this will be done by the 31st and so

808
00:37:15,770 --> 00:37:14,280
what they're going to do is they're

809
00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:15,780
going to try this brinksmanship is

810
00:37:20,390 --> 00:37:18,000
they're going to say okay we're we're

811
00:37:22,010 --> 00:37:20,400
going to try to blame the Democratic

812
00:37:24,650 --> 00:37:22,020
party for shutting down the government

813
00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:24,660
because the there's if there if there's

814
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:27,359
no new federal budget approved by

815
00:37:34,210 --> 00:37:29,760
December 31st then technically on

816
00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:37,010
that's not going to happen I'm assuming

817
00:37:45,069 --> 00:37:41,040
that the ndaa is going to go through my

818
00:37:49,130 --> 00:37:45,079
concern is uh 120 days

819
00:37:51,230 --> 00:37:49,140
if we back up uh that report was

820
00:37:53,170 --> 00:37:51,240
supposed to be delivered on October 31st

821
00:37:56,750 --> 00:37:53,180
and nobody seems to really give a crap

822
00:38:00,349 --> 00:37:56,760
and the chatter coming out of Washington

823
00:38:02,930 --> 00:38:00,359
DC about UFOs and uaps was different six

824
00:38:05,810 --> 00:38:02,940
months ago and it seems to have simmered

825
00:38:08,390 --> 00:38:05,820
do you feel the same thing well it's

826
00:38:10,250 --> 00:38:08,400
it's interesting that uh that everybody

827
00:38:13,010 --> 00:38:10,260
everybody was sitting on the edge of

828
00:38:15,050 --> 00:38:13,020
their chair better you know fearing that

829
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:15,060
the that what was going to happen in the

830
00:38:19,730 --> 00:38:17,040
election they thought that there was

831
00:38:22,609 --> 00:38:19,740
going to be a potential sweep on the

832
00:38:25,609 --> 00:38:22,619
part of Donald Trump recommended

833
00:38:28,010 --> 00:38:25,619
candidates who have an extraordinarily

834
00:38:30,349 --> 00:38:28,020
unique perspective on the federal

835
00:38:32,510 --> 00:38:30,359
government uh and that they believe that

836
00:38:34,970 --> 00:38:32,520
the federal government as the quote goes

837
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:34,980
should be shrunk so the to the size of

838
00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:36,480
putting it in the tub so it can be

839
00:38:40,370 --> 00:38:38,640
drowned and they don't want the federal

840
00:38:42,589 --> 00:38:40,380
government doing anything they want the

841
00:38:45,349 --> 00:38:42,599
states to be in charge as the state's

842
00:38:48,109 --> 00:38:45,359
rights old states rights argument so

843
00:38:51,109 --> 00:38:48,119
people were extremely concerned that if

844
00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:51,119
in fact there was a great Red Wave on

845
00:38:57,710 --> 00:38:54,800
that that the Republican party took over

846
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:57,720
uh in a massive way in the House of

847
00:39:02,569 --> 00:39:00,000
Representatives and also took control of

848
00:39:04,130 --> 00:39:02,579
the United States Senate uh and then

849
00:39:06,349 --> 00:39:04,140
Donald Trump was going to be coming out

850
00:39:07,609 --> 00:39:06,359
on the 15th of November and announced

851
00:39:09,710 --> 00:39:07,619
that he was going to be the candidate

852
00:39:11,150 --> 00:39:09,720
for the Republican party that there was

853
00:39:13,970 --> 00:39:11,160
going to be this Juggernaut that was

854
00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:13,980
going to take place uh and that all of

855
00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:15,780
this this activity on the part of the

856
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:18,000
federal government which is this is all

857
00:39:21,470 --> 00:39:20,160
part of of course would end up getting

858
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:21,480
pushed aside

859
00:39:28,190 --> 00:39:25,440
because it would be very little uh major

860
00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:28,200
uh progress made on the part of the

861
00:39:33,410 --> 00:39:30,960
federal government anywhere and so this

862
00:39:37,010 --> 00:39:33,420
this uh office that's getting set up now

863
00:39:39,710 --> 00:39:37,020
by the United States Congress is is a

864
00:39:41,810 --> 00:39:39,720
part of the federal government uh and so

865
00:39:45,290 --> 00:39:41,820
what's happened now is because the the

866
00:39:49,010 --> 00:39:45,300
house the house uh election came out to

867
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:49,020
be comparatively close to a tie you know

868
00:39:52,130 --> 00:39:50,880
except that the House of Representatives

869
00:39:54,349 --> 00:39:52,140
is now under the control of the

870
00:39:57,710 --> 00:39:54,359
Republican party and what we have to see

871
00:39:59,930 --> 00:39:57,720
we have to see if uh if uh Kevin is

872
00:40:02,510 --> 00:39:59,940
getting set to be elected as the the

873
00:40:05,230 --> 00:40:02,520
majority leader of the house uh and

874
00:40:07,609 --> 00:40:05,240
we'll see whether or not the extreme

875
00:40:08,930 --> 00:40:07,619
elements of the Republican party and

876
00:40:11,150 --> 00:40:08,940
this is all just being completely

877
00:40:13,970 --> 00:40:11,160
objective that there's there are extreme

878
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:13,980
elements in the Republican party uh and

879
00:40:20,510 --> 00:40:17,040
if they assert a lot of Leverage and try

880
00:40:21,950 --> 00:40:20,520
to to curtail the effectiveness of the

881
00:40:23,210 --> 00:40:21,960
functioning of the federal government

882
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:23,220
itself

883
00:40:27,770 --> 00:40:25,920
that could conceivably have some adverse

884
00:40:30,829 --> 00:40:27,780
effect upon this because they will look

885
00:40:33,109 --> 00:40:30,839
at these budgets and they'll say look uh

886
00:40:35,690 --> 00:40:33,119
the we don't want the federal government

887
00:40:37,790 --> 00:40:35,700
to be engaged in any kind of expensive

888
00:40:40,250 --> 00:40:37,800
activities we don't want taxes to be

889
00:40:42,349 --> 00:40:40,260
imposed upon the wealthy people of the

890
00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:42,359
country or the major corporations and

891
00:40:47,690 --> 00:40:44,160
they've got this entire ideological

892
00:40:49,609 --> 00:40:47,700
agenda the the genius I think of of

893
00:40:50,810 --> 00:40:49,619
Chris melon and Lou and some of the

894
00:40:54,109 --> 00:40:50,820
other people have been working on the

895
00:40:57,170 --> 00:40:54,119
hill is they have very powerful elements

896
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:57,180
within the Republican party as well as

897
00:41:02,870 --> 00:40:59,760
in the Democratic party who all support

898
00:41:05,089 --> 00:41:02,880
this being done because the Congress as

899
00:41:07,490 --> 00:41:05,099
a whole as an institution

900
00:41:10,310 --> 00:41:07,500
feels that it has been historically

901
00:41:12,589 --> 00:41:10,320
slighted and deceived by the executive

902
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:12,599
branch and so therefore this is a

903
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:15,359
constitutional struggle of A Sort that

904
00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:17,280
the the legislative branch of the

905
00:41:23,210 --> 00:41:20,160
government is moving forward to assert

906
00:41:27,010 --> 00:41:23,220
itself to get custody of this particular

907
00:41:29,810 --> 00:41:27,020
issue uh and the citizens as another

908
00:41:31,849 --> 00:41:29,820
Branch if you will of the government has

909
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:31,859
to move forward in a similar way to

910
00:41:38,030 --> 00:41:34,800
assert ourselves in a sound responsible

911
00:41:40,010 --> 00:41:38,040
professional manner to insist that this

912
00:41:42,109 --> 00:41:40,020
job be done effectively because this is

913
00:41:44,890 --> 00:41:42,119
going to affect us our whole Human

914
00:41:47,690 --> 00:41:44,900
family for the next 10 000 years sure

915
00:41:50,030 --> 00:41:47,700
are we going to have another UFO hearing

916
00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:50,040
I I realize the last one was a

917
00:41:56,030 --> 00:41:52,560
subcommittee i there were some

918
00:41:57,650 --> 00:41:56,040
disappointment in it I I thought it was

919
00:41:59,690 --> 00:41:57,660
pretty good I didn't think it was great

920
00:42:01,810 --> 00:41:59,700
and nothing else it was better it was

921
00:42:04,430 --> 00:42:01,820
better than a sharp stick in the eye

922
00:42:08,510 --> 00:42:04,440
but the the bottom line is this I think

923
00:42:11,150 --> 00:42:08,520
to me is the that the the uh that the

924
00:42:13,730 --> 00:42:11,160
Congress is getting ready to step into

925
00:42:16,849 --> 00:42:13,740
this area is such an extraordinarily

926
00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:16,859
sensitive area that they don't quite yet

927
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:19,380
know what all the information is you see

928
00:42:25,069 --> 00:42:21,599
this is extremely important they don't

929
00:42:27,170 --> 00:42:25,079
really know what it is that is known uh

930
00:42:30,230 --> 00:42:27,180
by these contractors and by the this

931
00:42:33,170 --> 00:42:30,240
this extremely uh rarified element

932
00:42:35,089 --> 00:42:33,180
inside the administrations of the

933
00:42:37,490 --> 00:42:35,099
executive branch that know about this

934
00:42:39,290 --> 00:42:37,500
subject in the the Congress people the

935
00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:39,300
key Congress people the gang of eight

936
00:42:44,510 --> 00:42:42,240
the main leaders want to know what's

937
00:42:45,589 --> 00:42:44,520
going on now that doesn't mean that

938
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:45,599
they're going to rush right out and say

939
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:46,800
here we're going to tell all the people

940
00:42:50,569 --> 00:42:48,000
because that isn't what they're doing

941
00:42:53,089 --> 00:42:50,579
they're part of this it's kind of elite

942
00:42:55,970 --> 00:42:53,099
club but they want to know what's going

943
00:42:58,250 --> 00:42:55,980
on so they can determine what if

944
00:43:00,230 --> 00:42:58,260
anything they think ought to be released

945
00:43:02,630 --> 00:43:00,240
to the American public and they're

946
00:43:04,670 --> 00:43:02,640
planning to release a lot more than has

947
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:04,680
ever been released in the past that

948
00:43:08,510 --> 00:43:06,240
doesn't mean that they're going to give

949
00:43:10,490 --> 00:43:08,520
away the the Family Jewels you know

950
00:43:12,490 --> 00:43:10,500
they're going to say oh but but they've

951
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:12,500
got right here in the bill

952
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:16,319
mandating the the the the members of the

953
00:43:20,990 --> 00:43:18,240
committee the members of the office

954
00:43:22,670 --> 00:43:21,000
itself and therefore the the Secretary

955
00:43:25,370 --> 00:43:22,680
of Defense and the secret the Director

956
00:43:27,530 --> 00:43:25,380
of National Intelligence be informed as

957
00:43:28,670 --> 00:43:27,540
to whether or not we have in our

958
00:43:33,230 --> 00:43:28,680
possession

959
00:43:35,329 --> 00:43:33,240
any uh extraterrestrial vehicles have we

960
00:43:37,609 --> 00:43:35,339
captured any extraterrestrial vehicles

961
00:43:40,370 --> 00:43:37,619
have we had a program that was designed

962
00:43:41,569 --> 00:43:40,380
to capture these vehicles have we had a

963
00:43:44,809 --> 00:43:41,579
program that was attempting to

964
00:43:50,589 --> 00:43:44,819
reconstruct uh the the engineering of

965
00:43:56,210 --> 00:43:53,270
let's let's pump the brakes right there

966
00:43:58,430 --> 00:43:56,220
yeah what do we do with something like

967
00:44:01,130 --> 00:43:58,440
the Wilson Davis document which is now

968
00:44:05,210 --> 00:44:01,140
part of the Congressional Record right

969
00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:05,220
it's right there and uh with Oak Shannon

970
00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:07,680
coming forward uh Jack house notes and

971
00:44:14,990 --> 00:44:10,800
of course Oak Shannon's notes seemed to

972
00:44:17,870 --> 00:44:15,000
support and vet that memo or whatever

973
00:44:21,770 --> 00:44:17,880
you want a transcription as as being

974
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:21,780
accurate and and Admiral Wilson saying I

975
00:44:26,950 --> 00:44:23,520
went out to Lockheed I think it was

976
00:44:30,530 --> 00:44:26,960
Lockheed yeah I'm sure it was lucky yes

977
00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:30,540
and they said it was aliens they said

978
00:44:36,349 --> 00:44:32,640
that they had a craft and they think it

979
00:44:40,190 --> 00:44:36,359
can fly that's where we are right well

980
00:44:43,730 --> 00:44:40,200
the the we we're not certain yeah Jimmy

981
00:44:45,650 --> 00:44:43,740
that but what we do know is that there

982
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:45,660
is the best chance there has ever been

983
00:44:52,730 --> 00:44:48,720
and I believe it's it's well above a 51

984
00:44:54,290 --> 00:44:52,740
probability that the leadership uh of

985
00:44:55,849 --> 00:44:54,300
the Senate intelligence committee and

986
00:44:57,890 --> 00:44:55,859
house intelligence committee and the

987
00:45:00,890 --> 00:44:57,900
Senate defense uh

988
00:45:03,170 --> 00:45:00,900
uh Appropriations committees are going

989
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:03,180
to find out we're going to find out for

990
00:45:07,550 --> 00:45:05,520
the first time uh some of the key

991
00:45:09,290 --> 00:45:07,560
information now I have no doubt they're

992
00:45:11,930 --> 00:45:09,300
going to withhold some there's there's a

993
00:45:14,690 --> 00:45:11,940
couple really strange Provisions uh in

994
00:45:17,150 --> 00:45:14,700
this in this act that that are are still

995
00:45:19,069 --> 00:45:17,160
Troublesome for example uh I'll read you

996
00:45:20,349 --> 00:45:19,079
one here it says

997
00:45:23,210 --> 00:45:20,359
um

998
00:45:26,170 --> 00:45:23,220
uh blah blah blah

999
00:45:31,630 --> 00:45:26,180
yeah it says the sharing of information

1000
00:45:35,569 --> 00:45:31,640
this is this is uh part part four of uh

1001
00:45:37,069 --> 00:45:35,579
uh section blah blah anyway this is it

1002
00:45:38,990 --> 00:45:37,079
says this it says

1003
00:45:40,910 --> 00:45:39,000
the system established under paragraph

1004
00:45:43,550 --> 00:45:40,920
one shall provide for the immediate

1005
00:45:45,829 --> 00:45:43,560
sharing with the office personnel

1006
00:45:49,010 --> 00:45:45,839
and supporting analysis and scientists

1007
00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:49,020
information previously prohibited from

1008
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:51,119
being reported under any non-disclosure

1009
00:45:56,390 --> 00:45:53,280
written or oral agreement are other

1010
00:45:58,849 --> 00:45:56,400
instrumentality except and this is what

1011
00:46:00,589 --> 00:45:58,859
I'm pointing out except in cases where

1012
00:46:02,690 --> 00:46:00,599
the cleared government Personnel

1013
00:46:04,910 --> 00:46:02,700
administering such a system conclude

1014
00:46:07,329 --> 00:46:04,920
that the preponderance of information

1015
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:07,339
available regarding the reporting

1016
00:46:13,609 --> 00:46:10,800
indicates that the observed object and

1017
00:46:16,930 --> 00:46:13,619
Associated events and activities likely

1018
00:46:19,970 --> 00:46:16,940
relate to a special access program or

1019
00:46:22,250 --> 00:46:19,980
compartmentalized access program then as

1020
00:46:25,130 --> 00:46:22,260
of the date of the reporting has been

1021
00:46:27,650 --> 00:46:25,140
explicitly and clearly reported to

1022
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:27,660
Congressional defense committees so they

1023
00:46:31,370 --> 00:46:29,760
can't do it in secret but that they've

1024
00:46:32,750 --> 00:46:31,380
they've got this other thing where they

1025
00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:32,760
where they say

1026
00:46:40,069 --> 00:46:35,359
that they're allowed to withhold

1027
00:46:43,970 --> 00:46:40,079
information which is uh which is a a

1028
00:46:45,950 --> 00:46:43,980
very a very peculiar provision in here

1029
00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:45,960
you see it's over it's over in this

1030
00:46:51,050 --> 00:46:48,720
other copy of the bill here thank you

1031
00:46:53,930 --> 00:46:51,060
while you're looking for that my my

1032
00:46:56,569 --> 00:46:53,940
other uh question is this is exactly

1033
00:47:01,630 --> 00:46:56,579
what Admiral Wilson was complaining

1034
00:47:05,210 --> 00:47:01,640
about that he now understood understood

1035
00:47:08,089 --> 00:47:05,220
that there was secrecy above where he

1036
00:47:10,490 --> 00:47:08,099
was oh yes day two yes the Joint Chiefs

1037
00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:10,500
yeah uh when it involves special access

1038
00:47:17,870 --> 00:47:13,760
programs and in any private Corporation

1039
00:47:21,950 --> 00:47:17,880
out there doesn't have to answer to to

1040
00:47:24,010 --> 00:47:21,960
anybody no he he did but what they've

1041
00:47:27,829 --> 00:47:24,020
done is they've said they've set up a

1042
00:47:31,010 --> 00:47:27,839
peculiar exception here uh here it is

1043
00:47:33,050 --> 00:47:31,020
it's called instances in which the data

1044
00:47:36,530 --> 00:47:33,060
is not to be shared

1045
00:47:38,210 --> 00:47:36,540
it says for each briefing period the

1046
00:47:40,130 --> 00:47:38,220
director of The Office shall jointly

1047
00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:40,140
provide you the chairman

1048
00:47:44,210 --> 00:47:42,720
or the chair in the ranking member and

1049
00:47:45,890 --> 00:47:44,220
vice chairman of the Congressional

1050
00:47:49,250 --> 00:47:45,900
committee specified

1051
00:47:52,670 --> 00:47:49,260
uh an enumeration of the of any

1052
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:52,680
instances in which data relating to an

1053
00:47:57,890 --> 00:47:55,200
unidentified Aerospace or undersea

1054
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:57,900
phenomena was not provided to the office

1055
00:48:02,329 --> 00:48:00,960
because of some special classification

1056
00:48:06,410 --> 00:48:02,339
restriction

1057
00:48:09,530 --> 00:48:06,420
on that data or for any other reason

1058
00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:09,540
well what does that mean what it means

1059
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:11,520
is that they've got a loophole here in

1060
00:48:16,430 --> 00:48:14,400
the bill that says that that they can

1061
00:48:17,450 --> 00:48:16,440
get away with just reporting to the

1062
00:48:23,210 --> 00:48:17,460
chairman

1063
00:48:24,470 --> 00:48:23,220
of information which they think are way

1064
00:48:26,870 --> 00:48:24,480
too sensitive

1065
00:48:29,809 --> 00:48:26,880
to report even to the office

1066
00:48:31,970 --> 00:48:29,819
itself so that they there there can be

1067
00:48:34,849 --> 00:48:31,980
information given to the actual the

1068
00:48:36,589 --> 00:48:34,859
actual uh director of The Office uh can

1069
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:36,599
give the information to the chairman and

1070
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:37,920
the vice chairman of the Senate

1071
00:48:40,730 --> 00:48:38,880
intelligence committee and

1072
00:48:43,309 --> 00:48:40,740
Appropriations Committee but not to

1073
00:48:45,170 --> 00:48:43,319
anybody else uh and so that they've

1074
00:48:47,809 --> 00:48:45,180
still got they've still got this you

1075
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:47,819
know this uh you know hide the hide the

1076
00:48:51,770 --> 00:48:50,160
balloon here going on a little bit uh

1077
00:48:54,770 --> 00:48:51,780
and so these are these are some of the

1078
00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:54,780
things that we need to look at uh to to

1079
00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:57,599
critique about the bill uh that is still

1080
00:49:02,089 --> 00:49:00,000
there now but the fact of the matter is

1081
00:49:05,170 --> 00:49:02,099
you know and this is no surprise to any

1082
00:49:09,250 --> 00:49:05,180
of us is that there this particular area

1083
00:49:11,890 --> 00:49:09,260
still has a a domain

1084
00:49:15,770 --> 00:49:11,900
which virtually

1085
00:49:19,130 --> 00:49:15,780
99.9 of everybody that our government

1086
00:49:20,210 --> 00:49:19,140
employees believe May well need to be

1087
00:49:23,450 --> 00:49:20,220
concealed

1088
00:49:25,730 --> 00:49:23,460
okay uh now as what all that is and that

1089
00:49:28,069 --> 00:49:25,740
is for example if there there's an

1090
00:49:29,809 --> 00:49:28,079
extraterrestrial civilization uh and

1091
00:49:30,890 --> 00:49:29,819
that I don't even want to speculate

1092
00:49:32,270 --> 00:49:30,900
about that because people are going to

1093
00:49:34,910 --> 00:49:32,280
think that we know something we don't

1094
00:49:37,370 --> 00:49:34,920
know but but what I'm saying is there's

1095
00:49:38,990 --> 00:49:37,380
still this this caveat in here where

1096
00:49:41,569 --> 00:49:39,000
they're they're allowed to conceal the

1097
00:49:44,569 --> 00:49:41,579
information but have to give it to the

1098
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:44,579
chairman and the vice chairman okay but

1099
00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:48,480
that's all who that is very uh that's

1100
00:49:55,150 --> 00:49:51,599
very clever wording and the reason why I

1101
00:49:58,370 --> 00:49:55,160
say that it sounds to me that they know

1102
00:49:59,530 --> 00:49:58,380
whoever's writing uh these Provisions

1103
00:50:03,829 --> 00:49:59,540
into this

1104
00:50:06,349 --> 00:50:03,839
knows about uh the E.T phenomenon knows

1105
00:50:08,569 --> 00:50:06,359
about capture craft knows about the saps

1106
00:50:11,930 --> 00:50:08,579
and knows that the phenomenon is real

1107
00:50:15,470 --> 00:50:11,940
yes it is carefully crafted and worded

1108
00:50:17,450 --> 00:50:15,480
isn't it I I let's put it this way the

1109
00:50:20,030 --> 00:50:17,460
folks that I've talked to

1110
00:50:22,250 --> 00:50:20,040
clearly presume that it's true right

1111
00:50:24,530 --> 00:50:22,260
they don't they don't profess to

1112
00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:24,540
actually have first-hand information but

1113
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:27,359
they they've talked to enough people who

1114
00:50:31,730 --> 00:50:29,760
are in a position to know that they're

1115
00:50:35,089 --> 00:50:31,740
convinced that it's true they're they're

1116
00:50:37,490 --> 00:50:35,099
convinced that that the the the UFO

1117
00:50:39,470 --> 00:50:37,500
phenomenon is real they're convinced

1118
00:50:40,849 --> 00:50:39,480
that it's almost certain that it's

1119
00:50:43,130 --> 00:50:40,859
extraterrestrial

1120
00:50:45,710 --> 00:50:43,140
there there are other you know extra

1121
00:50:48,349 --> 00:50:45,720
dimensional extra temporal possibilities

1122
00:50:50,809 --> 00:50:48,359
that are they're here but the the

1123
00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:50,819
substantial majority of them are are

1124
00:50:55,849 --> 00:50:53,040
functionally convinced that this is

1125
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:55,859
extraterrestrial uh I know the church

1126
00:51:00,230 --> 00:50:58,800
the church uh people uh in the Catholic

1127
00:51:02,329 --> 00:51:00,240
church are convinced of the section of

1128
00:51:04,190 --> 00:51:02,339
terrestrial they know they know that

1129
00:51:05,870 --> 00:51:04,200
that there's a uh we're in an

1130
00:51:07,549 --> 00:51:05,880
extraordinarily important period of our

1131
00:51:09,950 --> 00:51:07,559
human history where we're getting set to

1132
00:51:12,890 --> 00:51:09,960
adjust to the fact that you know that

1133
00:51:15,010 --> 00:51:12,900
that uh that foreign Travelers have come

1134
00:51:19,130 --> 00:51:15,020
to our Shores

1135
00:51:22,790 --> 00:51:19,140
okay we'll Circle back to that Danny uh

1136
00:51:26,450 --> 00:51:22,800
but but back to these Provisions yes

1137
00:51:28,309 --> 00:51:26,460
um Admiral Wilson uh stated quite

1138
00:51:33,890 --> 00:51:28,319
clearly that

1139
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:33,900
um not only uh was uh he not allowed

1140
00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:36,720
access but that he was told that there

1141
00:51:42,049 --> 00:51:39,599
was a bigot list which he was exposed to

1142
00:51:43,690 --> 00:51:42,059
and he's said that that bigot list

1143
00:51:46,549 --> 00:51:43,700
lacked

1144
00:51:49,430 --> 00:51:46,559
politicians yeah such attract members of

1145
00:51:52,130 --> 00:51:49,440
the military which would suggest to me

1146
00:51:54,890 --> 00:51:52,140
that those that are involved with

1147
00:51:57,410 --> 00:51:54,900
reverse engineering alien craft out here

1148
00:52:00,530 --> 00:51:57,420
in Palmdale California

1149
00:52:03,470 --> 00:52:00,540
um are not the Senate are not Congress

1150
00:52:06,609 --> 00:52:03,480
and are not the president of the United

1151
00:52:09,770 --> 00:52:08,390
and nobody in the House of

1152
00:52:13,130 --> 00:52:09,780
Representatives would know anything

1153
00:52:16,309 --> 00:52:13,140
about this no the the the but what's

1154
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:16,319
happened is that there

1155
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:18,960
understand what's what's happening here

1156
00:52:24,589 --> 00:52:20,640
are is the unique thing that happens

1157
00:52:26,990 --> 00:52:24,599
quite early you can see where where has

1158
00:52:29,569 --> 00:52:27,000
come out from under tight control

1159
00:52:30,890 --> 00:52:29,579
you know usually every every place in

1160
00:52:32,930 --> 00:52:30,900
the center hearing a house hearing is

1161
00:52:34,190 --> 00:52:32,940
totally choreographed everybody knows

1162
00:52:35,930 --> 00:52:34,200
who the witness is going to be everybody

1163
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:35,940
knows what they're going to say you know

1164
00:52:38,930 --> 00:52:37,200
everybody knows what the rulings are

1165
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:38,940
going to be and they've all uh

1166
00:52:42,349 --> 00:52:40,800
established some sort of a compromise

1167
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:42,359
agreement before the whole thing starts

1168
00:52:45,230 --> 00:52:44,160
because they don't want things to get

1169
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:45,240
out of control

1170
00:52:51,349 --> 00:52:48,240
and what's Happening Here is this issue

1171
00:52:53,450 --> 00:52:51,359
is still not entirely under control

1172
00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:53,460
that what's happened is for the from the

1173
00:52:58,130 --> 00:52:56,160
time that Lou and Chris uh went forward

1174
00:53:00,410 --> 00:52:58,140
and gave this to the New York Times and

1175
00:53:03,230 --> 00:53:00,420
the New York Times decided surprisingly

1176
00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:03,240
to publish it uh that this has not yet

1177
00:53:08,030 --> 00:53:05,520
come under control again and so what's

1178
00:53:11,450 --> 00:53:08,040
happening in part is the United States

1179
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:11,460
Senate in house are attempting to get it

1180
00:53:16,250 --> 00:53:13,440
under control but they're trying to get

1181
00:53:18,770 --> 00:53:16,260
it under the control of the Congress

1182
00:53:21,530 --> 00:53:18,780
uh they they believe that the executive

1183
00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:21,540
branch functions at the behest of the

1184
00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:23,520
Congress you know and this is a long

1185
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:26,400
constitutional debate about the the

1186
00:53:30,710 --> 00:53:29,040
equal power of the three branches of

1187
00:53:32,809 --> 00:53:30,720
government but the fact of the matter is

1188
00:53:34,490 --> 00:53:32,819
that from a from a basic point of view

1189
00:53:37,370 --> 00:53:34,500
the executive branch is supposed to

1190
00:53:38,870 --> 00:53:37,380
function to carry into execution the

1191
00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:38,880
laws and policies that are actually

1192
00:53:43,010 --> 00:53:41,280
formulated by the legislative branch and

1193
00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:43,020
the judicial branch just interprets them

1194
00:53:49,609 --> 00:53:46,319
and so therefore the the recapture of

1195
00:53:52,130 --> 00:53:49,619
control over this extraordinarily

1196
00:53:54,410 --> 00:53:52,140
important subject matter by the Congress

1197
00:53:56,510 --> 00:53:54,420
of the United States is what's in

1198
00:53:59,150 --> 00:53:56,520
process right now and if they can

1199
00:54:01,250 --> 00:53:59,160
succeed in getting control of this and

1200
00:54:04,010 --> 00:54:01,260
they they realize that they have to they

1201
00:54:07,490 --> 00:54:04,020
have to exercise extraordinary care here

1202
00:54:10,309 --> 00:54:07,500
because if they miscue and they release

1203
00:54:12,470 --> 00:54:10,319
any of this information uh that the

1204
00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:12,480
executive branch views to be a complete

1205
00:54:17,210 --> 00:54:15,119
third rail uh then the executive branch

1206
00:54:18,170 --> 00:54:17,220
is going to lock down on them uh and

1207
00:54:20,770 --> 00:54:18,180
they're going to refuse to really

1208
00:54:24,890 --> 00:54:20,780
cooperate with them de facto

1209
00:54:27,170 --> 00:54:24,900
but what does the going back to Admiral

1210
00:54:29,870 --> 00:54:27,180
Wilson again because his words were

1211
00:54:31,309 --> 00:54:29,880
pretty extraordinary in that document

1212
00:54:33,849 --> 00:54:31,319
um the executive branch doesn't know

1213
00:54:36,109 --> 00:54:33,859
anything either right it's

1214
00:54:41,329 --> 00:54:36,119
there's still elected officials that

1215
00:54:43,970 --> 00:54:41,339
come and go and the uh the saps and what

1216
00:54:46,309 --> 00:54:43,980
is going on out there if they if they

1217
00:54:49,010 --> 00:54:46,319
are in possession of a vehicle not

1218
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:49,020
manufactured on planet Earth that's been

1219
00:54:55,210 --> 00:54:52,079
there for a long time throughout many

1220
00:54:58,609 --> 00:54:55,220
many administrations that's right

1221
00:55:01,609 --> 00:54:58,619
that's true and but but the but the

1222
00:55:04,430 --> 00:55:01,619
bottom line is is that there there are

1223
00:55:07,309 --> 00:55:04,440
some people that that come into

1224
00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:07,319
positions inside the military and even

1225
00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:09,599
some people come in positions inside the

1226
00:55:15,470 --> 00:55:13,200
legislature who are allowed access to

1227
00:55:17,770 --> 00:55:15,480
some of this information the problem is

1228
00:55:20,930 --> 00:55:17,780
it's not done in accordance with any

1229
00:55:22,490 --> 00:55:20,940
constitutional criteria right you know

1230
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:22,500
it's a question of whether they can be

1231
00:55:28,190 --> 00:55:25,200
quote trusted you know are they are they

1232
00:55:30,890 --> 00:55:28,200
willing to be part of a secret Elite do

1233
00:55:33,710 --> 00:55:30,900
they have the right interest in mind uh

1234
00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:33,720
at all times which is not the bigot list

1235
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:36,240
requires that's right that's exactly

1236
00:55:40,430 --> 00:55:38,880
right so it's a it's not dependent upon

1237
00:55:42,349 --> 00:55:40,440
necessarily you know exactly what

1238
00:55:43,790 --> 00:55:42,359
official office you hold or what

1239
00:55:46,130 --> 00:55:43,800
particular corporation you're working

1240
00:55:47,690 --> 00:55:46,140
with and this of course goes to a

1241
00:55:49,309 --> 00:55:47,700
completely different subject which we'll

1242
00:55:51,530 --> 00:55:49,319
just set aside for for today's

1243
00:55:53,450 --> 00:55:51,540
discussion which is this question of

1244
00:55:55,309 --> 00:55:53,460
some kind of a deeper government some

1245
00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:55,319
kind of a deep Shadow government some

1246
00:56:00,170 --> 00:55:58,559
kind of an elite uh aristocracy that

1247
00:56:02,210 --> 00:56:00,180
sort of is behind the scenes that kind

1248
00:56:04,970 --> 00:56:02,220
of pulls the strings on things that are

1249
00:56:07,490 --> 00:56:04,980
going on but but but setting that aside

1250
00:56:10,190 --> 00:56:07,500
the fact of the matter is that the the

1251
00:56:13,250 --> 00:56:10,200
people who are in the know there's not

1252
00:56:17,750 --> 00:56:13,260
any doubt whatsoever that there is some

1253
00:56:19,730 --> 00:56:17,760
group analogous to uh mj12 are analogous

1254
00:56:22,190 --> 00:56:19,740
to a group similar to the one that

1255
00:56:25,790 --> 00:56:22,200
president President Truman set up when

1256
00:56:27,890 --> 00:56:25,800
when Ed Lansdale the the G2 for the U.S

1257
00:56:29,690 --> 00:56:27,900
military intelligence in the Philippines

1258
00:56:32,450 --> 00:56:29,700
you know at the end of World War II

1259
00:56:35,809 --> 00:56:32,460
discovered you know 1.2 trillion dollars

1260
00:56:38,470 --> 00:56:35,819
of gold and silver in Jewels you know uh

1261
00:56:41,390 --> 00:56:38,480
hidden in the Philippines and they they

1262
00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:41,400
secreted it they they they went and told

1263
00:56:44,450 --> 00:56:43,200
Truman about it and he took it

1264
00:56:46,130 --> 00:56:44,460
completely out of the hands of the

1265
00:56:47,390 --> 00:56:46,140
government didn't tell the Congress

1266
00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:47,400
about it didn't tell any of the

1267
00:56:50,990 --> 00:56:48,960
executive branched people about it set

1268
00:56:53,390 --> 00:56:51,000
up a private trust fund the Anderson

1269
00:56:56,089 --> 00:56:53,400
trust which they then used secretly

1270
00:56:59,569 --> 00:56:56,099
covertly to help fund certain elements

1271
00:57:02,390 --> 00:56:59,579
around the world to try to neutralize uh

1272
00:57:04,130 --> 00:57:02,400
Russia and to put extreme reactionaries

1273
00:57:05,870 --> 00:57:04,140
into positions of power throughout the

1274
00:57:08,329 --> 00:57:05,880
world and it was an extraordinarily

1275
00:57:10,730 --> 00:57:08,339
secret program the Anderson trust but

1276
00:57:14,030 --> 00:57:10,740
this is something similar and that when

1277
00:57:15,410 --> 00:57:14,040
when this thing happened at Roswell uh

1278
00:57:17,450 --> 00:57:15,420
in the earlier thing that happened at

1279
00:57:20,750 --> 00:57:17,460
Aztec that that when when these happened

1280
00:57:23,210 --> 00:57:20,760
that Truman said look at this is is way

1281
00:57:25,250 --> 00:57:23,220
too sensitive for this to be put into

1282
00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:25,260
the hands of these kind of coming and

1283
00:57:28,970 --> 00:57:27,359
going Congress people and even coming

1284
00:57:31,430 --> 00:57:28,980
and going elected executive

1285
00:57:32,809 --> 00:57:31,440
Representatives we've got to have a

1286
00:57:34,910 --> 00:57:32,819
trusted men

1287
00:57:36,650 --> 00:57:34,920
who can be trusted with this kind of

1288
00:57:39,530 --> 00:57:36,660
information and to do the right thing

1289
00:57:41,210 --> 00:57:39,540
and so that uh that he he set up

1290
00:57:44,270 --> 00:57:41,220
something very similar to the Anderson

1291
00:57:47,329 --> 00:57:44,280
trust he set it up the like this thing

1292
00:57:50,690 --> 00:57:47,339
analogous to the mj-12 of an elite group

1293
00:57:53,150 --> 00:57:50,700
of people who are trusted people trusted

1294
00:57:55,250 --> 00:57:53,160
by The Establishment in in the in the

1295
00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:55,260
United States governing circles and that

1296
00:58:00,170 --> 00:57:57,839
this group has passed it on to their

1297
00:58:01,910 --> 00:58:00,180
progeny there we don't know exactly who

1298
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:01,920
all the people are that are in this sort

1299
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:03,839
of elite group that know about this but

1300
00:58:08,690 --> 00:58:05,760
we know that there is such a group and

1301
00:58:11,089 --> 00:58:08,700
we know that it functions well beyond uh

1302
00:58:13,609 --> 00:58:11,099
Admiral uh Wilson and it functions well

1303
00:58:17,170 --> 00:58:13,619
beyond the normal chain of command you

1304
00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:17,180
know it was a J2 he was the Jesus

1305
00:58:22,069 --> 00:58:19,920
that's right so that we know that but we

1306
00:58:24,650 --> 00:58:22,079
know that it exists so that this isn't

1307
00:58:26,990 --> 00:58:24,660
chaos I guess you can take some solace

1308
00:58:28,609 --> 00:58:27,000
in that this isn't just you know Anarchy

1309
00:58:30,410 --> 00:58:28,619
you know with just you know people

1310
00:58:32,750 --> 00:58:30,420
trying to get rich on it there's there's

1311
00:58:35,890 --> 00:58:32,760
some kind of an elite sophisticated

1312
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:35,900
aided very intelligent

1313
00:58:42,710 --> 00:58:38,880
conceivably wise but completely

1314
00:58:45,770 --> 00:58:42,720
undemocratic group that is in charge of

1315
00:58:49,370 --> 00:58:45,780
this Congress wants to find out who they

1316
00:58:53,690 --> 00:58:49,380
are yeah before uh we head to a break is

1317
00:58:56,150 --> 00:58:53,700
this what uh Kennedy you know referred

1318
00:59:00,170 --> 00:58:56,160
to so elegantly you know secret group

1319
00:59:02,270 --> 00:59:00,180
secret handshakes well it's uh it's it's

1320
00:59:05,170 --> 00:59:02,280
interesting we have to be we have to be

1321
00:59:09,170 --> 00:59:05,180
careful about you know becoming too

1322
00:59:11,450 --> 00:59:09,180
theatrical about it uh but the but the

1323
00:59:14,089 --> 00:59:11,460
fact of the matter is that in almost

1324
00:59:16,670 --> 00:59:14,099
every single organization that anybody

1325
00:59:19,970 --> 00:59:16,680
has ever had anything to do with you

1326
00:59:22,190 --> 00:59:19,980
always realize that there is some tiny

1327
00:59:25,069 --> 00:59:22,200
group that really makes all the

1328
00:59:26,809 --> 00:59:25,079
decisions no matter how Democrats it's

1329
00:59:28,250 --> 00:59:26,819
like Democratic National Committee you

1330
00:59:30,109 --> 00:59:28,260
know there's some group that really

1331
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:30,119
decides who the next candidate is going

1332
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:32,400
to be you know there it's always that

1333
00:59:36,530 --> 00:59:34,799
way uh in the the people who think

1334
00:59:38,450 --> 00:59:36,540
they're smarter than everybody else and

1335
00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:38,460
harder working than everybody else you

1336
00:59:44,750 --> 00:59:41,040
know and and may or may not be more

1337
00:59:47,030 --> 00:59:44,760
responsible uh than other people truly

1338
00:59:49,069 --> 00:59:47,040
believe that they're entitled uh and in

1339
00:59:52,010 --> 00:59:49,079
fact responsible for for making these

1340
00:59:54,530 --> 00:59:52,020
kind of decisions uh and that they don't

1341
00:59:56,089 --> 00:59:54,540
trust these come again go again Congress

1342
00:59:58,250 --> 00:59:56,099
people that'll say anything do anything

1343
01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:58,260
to get elected you know who compromise

1344
01:00:03,470 --> 01:00:00,960
their their integrity Etc uh and that

1345
01:00:04,670 --> 01:00:03,480
there's it's not without some you know

1346
01:00:08,030 --> 01:00:04,680
this is a little risky to say but not

1347
01:00:10,190 --> 01:00:08,040
without some support for that you know

1348
01:00:12,710 --> 01:00:10,200
the the so that this is so such an

1349
01:00:14,329 --> 01:00:12,720
astonishingly important issue governing

1350
01:00:16,549 --> 01:00:14,339
the entire future history of our human

1351
01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:16,559
family that people want to take

1352
01:00:22,010 --> 01:00:18,960
extraordinary care about what's going to

1353
01:00:25,630 --> 01:00:22,020
be decided here uh now the problem is is

1354
01:00:28,490 --> 01:00:25,640
that they do not trust the people

1355
01:00:31,490 --> 01:00:28,500
democratically they do the the elite

1356
01:00:33,950 --> 01:00:31,500
people who are involved in governing and

1357
01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:33,960
making decisions in in our country do

1358
01:00:40,130 --> 01:00:37,680
not trust the regular people uh and it's

1359
01:00:42,349 --> 01:00:40,140
it's there's some demonstrations as to

1360
01:00:43,670 --> 01:00:42,359
why a lot of people can't be trusted you

1361
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know I mean if the people are going to

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get in the street with pitchforks and

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and you know uh in torches and burn your

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place down if you don't do what they

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01:00:53,990 --> 01:00:51,780
tell you you know you got to be you got

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to be circumspect about this and so that

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this this thing that's going on right

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01:01:01,549 --> 01:00:58,079
now is that we finally come to the spa

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01:01:05,170 --> 01:01:01,559
after you know 50 years of my working in

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01:01:08,630 --> 01:01:05,180
in this area where where really really

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01:01:10,250 --> 01:01:08,640
long-term important decisions are in the

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01:01:11,690 --> 01:01:10,260
process of getting made they're

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01:01:14,569 --> 01:01:11,700
different decisions that have been

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01:01:16,250 --> 01:01:14,579
functioning for the last 75 years that's

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01:01:17,809 --> 01:01:16,260
clear there's going to be some different

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01:01:19,490 --> 01:01:17,819
set of decisions that are made here

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01:01:21,289 --> 01:01:19,500
about who's going to find out about this

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01:01:23,390 --> 01:01:21,299
and what's going to be done about this

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and that the people in the Congress are

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01:01:28,789 --> 01:01:25,920
going to be responsible for this and and

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01:01:30,910 --> 01:01:28,799
so as of right now you still you still

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01:01:33,710 --> 01:01:30,920
see that the this committee remember

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01:01:35,030 --> 01:01:33,720
Congress is tipping its hat over to the

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01:01:37,970 --> 01:01:35,040
executive branch here they're saying

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01:01:39,710 --> 01:01:37,980
look you as the Secretary of Defense

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01:01:42,170 --> 01:01:39,720
and you as the Director of National

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01:01:43,549 --> 01:01:42,180
Security intelligence you pick the

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01:01:52,910 --> 01:01:43,559
director

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01:01:56,270 --> 01:01:52,920
brief us has to give reports to Congress

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01:01:58,789 --> 01:01:56,280
so that we know what's going on but they

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01:02:01,910 --> 01:01:58,799
still haven't asserted the power

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01:02:03,650 --> 01:02:01,920
uh the this this group is going to be

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01:02:04,609 --> 01:02:03,660
setting up the guidelines this group is

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01:02:06,650 --> 01:02:04,619
going to be gathering the information

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01:02:08,990 --> 01:02:06,660
this group is going to be cataloging the

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01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:09,000
information Congress is just demanding

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01:02:14,390 --> 01:02:11,520
that it be reported to right now they

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01:02:16,910 --> 01:02:14,400
have not yet taken into their hands the

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01:02:19,910 --> 01:02:16,920
authority to make these ultimate

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01:02:23,089 --> 01:02:19,920
decisions which they are

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01:02:24,170 --> 01:02:23,099
constitutionally uh obliged to do but

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01:02:25,970 --> 01:02:24,180
they haven't they haven't made that

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01:02:27,770 --> 01:02:25,980
decision yet they're trying to find out

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01:02:28,970 --> 01:02:27,780
what the facts are and then they're

1405
01:02:31,130 --> 01:02:28,980
going to decide what they're going to do

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01:02:33,650 --> 01:02:31,140
but that's the moment we find ourselves

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01:02:35,630 --> 01:02:33,660
in Jimmy let's uh take our break right

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here our guest tonight the one and only

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01:02:40,789 --> 01:02:38,099
Danny Sheehan we're going to take a

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all right Welcome Back Fade to Black I

1485
01:06:03,890 --> 01:05:59,400
am your host Jimmy church and our guest

1486
01:06:07,370 --> 01:06:03,900
tonight Danny Sheehan and uh what I want

1487
01:06:11,690 --> 01:06:07,380
to do uh for the second half of the show

1488
01:06:14,030 --> 01:06:11,700
Danny is uh I want to dive into uh some

1489
01:06:16,730 --> 01:06:14,040
other areas I'm I'm concerned about

1490
01:06:19,549 --> 01:06:16,740
Congress I'm I'm upset just like

1491
01:06:21,890 --> 01:06:19,559
everybody else is about the delay in uh

1492
01:06:25,250 --> 01:06:21,900
this UFO report and what the contents

1493
01:06:27,589 --> 01:06:25,260
are uh what has been investigated uh who

1494
01:06:30,589 --> 01:06:27,599
is coming forward how the investigations

1495
01:06:32,210 --> 01:06:30,599
are being handled and we've been kept in

1496
01:06:35,690 --> 01:06:32,220
the dark and we we're not going to know

1497
01:06:38,750 --> 01:06:35,700
until the report is released uh both the

1498
01:06:41,390 --> 01:06:38,760
classified and the public version and

1499
01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:41,400
the other thing about this is

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01:06:46,549 --> 01:06:44,400
um normally stuff gets leaked

1501
01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:46,559
there there isn't any you know there's

1502
01:06:51,410 --> 01:06:49,680
political advantages right to to leak

1503
01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:51,420
information about this report and that

1504
01:06:55,670 --> 01:06:53,520
hasn't happened which says to me it

1505
01:06:56,930 --> 01:06:55,680
hasn't made its way to Capitol Hill at

1506
01:06:59,930 --> 01:06:56,940
all

1507
01:07:01,910 --> 01:06:59,940
um and and and nobody knows nothing at

1508
01:07:03,829 --> 01:07:01,920
this point no there's nothing there

1509
01:07:05,390 --> 01:07:03,839
there's no nothing there you know say

1510
01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:05,400
there was no staff to do the report

1511
01:07:10,609 --> 01:07:08,400
there was no genuine leadership uh by

1512
01:07:12,170 --> 01:07:10,619
Scott to do anything about it you know

1513
01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:12,180
that they all knew that this other

1514
01:07:15,950 --> 01:07:14,160
regime was going to be coming into place

1515
01:07:18,230 --> 01:07:15,960
now and so that they've all been

1516
01:07:19,970 --> 01:07:18,240
basically just Treading Water uh waiting

1517
01:07:22,670 --> 01:07:19,980
for the decisions to get made here

1518
01:07:25,130 --> 01:07:22,680
because they're they're waiting to see

1519
01:07:27,710 --> 01:07:25,140
how courageous Congress is really going

1520
01:07:29,990 --> 01:07:27,720
to be in in getting this office set up

1521
01:07:31,970 --> 01:07:30,000
how aggressive are they going to be how

1522
01:07:34,490 --> 01:07:31,980
how insistent are they going to be that

1523
01:07:37,670 --> 01:07:34,500
that the compliance actually takes place

1524
01:07:39,770 --> 01:07:37,680
here uh and so that that this is this

1525
01:07:42,829 --> 01:07:39,780
has been such an incredibly hot potato

1526
01:07:45,109 --> 01:07:42,839
for the last 75 years that with this

1527
01:07:47,450 --> 01:07:45,119
move that's being made by August now to

1528
01:07:51,049 --> 01:07:47,460
move into a position of taking control

1529
01:07:54,289 --> 01:07:51,059
over this particular issue in sharing

1530
01:07:56,650 --> 01:07:54,299
some very important degree of Power with

1531
01:07:59,210 --> 01:07:56,660
the executive branch in this area

1532
01:08:01,549 --> 01:07:59,220
this everybody's standing back waiting

1533
01:08:04,549 --> 01:08:01,559
to see how this thing is going to settle

1534
01:08:07,250 --> 01:08:04,559
and it and so that that on the one hand

1535
01:08:09,650 --> 01:08:07,260
there's a lot of inside baseball that

1536
01:08:11,210 --> 01:08:09,660
has to be addressed you know who struck

1537
01:08:13,549 --> 01:08:11,220
John who's going to be working on this

1538
01:08:15,650 --> 01:08:13,559
who's going to be hired Etc

1539
01:08:18,229 --> 01:08:15,660
those are all extremely important but

1540
01:08:20,329 --> 01:08:18,239
what for for example when when I sit

1541
01:08:22,370 --> 01:08:20,339
down to meet with the inspector generals

1542
01:08:24,229 --> 01:08:22,380
with Lou Elizondo and others you know

1543
01:08:25,669 --> 01:08:24,239
and this is the dni now this is the

1544
01:08:27,590 --> 01:08:25,679
defense the Director of National

1545
01:08:29,450 --> 01:08:27,600
Intelligence this is the intelligence

1546
01:08:31,490 --> 01:08:29,460
Community Inspector General that we're

1547
01:08:34,130 --> 01:08:31,500
going to meet with now and what we're

1548
01:08:35,630 --> 01:08:34,140
saying is look you know when are when

1549
01:08:38,090 --> 01:08:35,640
are you going to meet with them December

1550
01:08:40,610 --> 01:08:38,100
8th December 8th 9 30 in the morning

1551
01:08:43,010 --> 01:08:40,620
December 8th yeah in about a week yeah

1552
01:08:45,050 --> 01:08:43,020
that's right that's right so as we're

1553
01:08:47,450 --> 01:08:45,060
saying look at the the reality is that

1554
01:08:49,309 --> 01:08:47,460
we all know that that nothing is

1555
01:08:51,110 --> 01:08:49,319
happening right now that everybody's

1556
01:08:53,329 --> 01:08:51,120
treading water here waiting for this

1557
01:08:55,309 --> 01:08:53,339
waiting for this to get approved and for

1558
01:08:57,890 --> 01:08:55,319
this office to be set up and see you

1559
01:08:59,689 --> 01:08:57,900
know what kind of how forward-leaning is

1560
01:09:01,970 --> 01:08:59,699
the people are going to be and picking a

1561
01:09:04,010 --> 01:09:01,980
really meaningful director that's really

1562
01:09:05,990 --> 01:09:04,020
going to get to the bottom of this stuff

1563
01:09:08,269 --> 01:09:06,000
how are the political compromise is

1564
01:09:10,970 --> 01:09:08,279
going to be struck you know so so that

1565
01:09:12,890 --> 01:09:10,980
nobody loses their job or steps on a

1566
01:09:14,269 --> 01:09:12,900
land mine here somewhere we know that

1567
01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:14,279
all that's going to be going on but what

1568
01:09:20,090 --> 01:09:16,080
I'm saying to them is look you need to

1569
01:09:23,510 --> 01:09:20,100
understand that this is probably the

1570
01:09:25,550 --> 01:09:23,520
most important single subject that is

1571
01:09:27,769 --> 01:09:25,560
going on in the entire Human family

1572
01:09:30,650 --> 01:09:27,779
right now you know because to say this

1573
01:09:32,630 --> 01:09:30,660
this is going to control our

1574
01:09:35,150 --> 01:09:32,640
relationship for the next 10 000 years

1575
01:09:37,610 --> 01:09:35,160
uh with an extraterrestrial civilization

1576
01:09:39,709 --> 01:09:37,620
so that this we have to we have to be

1577
01:09:42,410 --> 01:09:39,719
extraordinarily mindful of what it is

1578
01:09:44,630 --> 01:09:42,420
that we're we're doing at this point and

1579
01:09:46,370 --> 01:09:44,640
yet there are discussions that are not

1580
01:09:49,010 --> 01:09:46,380
taking place even though in the bill

1581
01:09:51,769 --> 01:09:49,020
it's really interesting one of the tasks

1582
01:09:55,010 --> 01:09:51,779
that they're assigned to undertake is to

1583
01:09:57,229 --> 01:09:55,020
ascertain the origins

1584
01:09:59,510 --> 01:09:57,239
of the UFOs

1585
01:10:02,689 --> 01:09:59,520
and the intention

1586
01:10:05,390 --> 01:10:02,699
of the intelligence behind the UFOs and

1587
01:10:08,810 --> 01:10:05,400
it says that and so that so that this

1588
01:10:12,050 --> 01:10:08,820
this uh this more metaphysical or

1589
01:10:14,750 --> 01:10:12,060
philosophical Dimension actually exists

1590
01:10:17,030 --> 01:10:14,760
here but the problem is that there's

1591
01:10:19,310 --> 01:10:17,040
going to be a great tendency to focus on

1592
01:10:21,770 --> 01:10:19,320
the nuts and bolts the technology of it

1593
01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:21,780
all of is it a military threat you know

1594
01:10:26,149 --> 01:10:23,280
are they doing surveillance against our

1595
01:10:28,610 --> 01:10:26,159
nuclear facilities Etc but but the fact

1596
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:28,620
of the matter is that there's a there's

1597
01:10:33,169 --> 01:10:30,719
a whole other discussion that needs to

1598
01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:33,179
be taking place right now uh and that

1599
01:10:37,970 --> 01:10:35,040
this is the discussion that you know

1600
01:10:40,850 --> 01:10:37,980
that was was called for actually

1601
01:10:43,689 --> 01:10:40,860
officially by the Vatican you know back

1602
01:10:47,090 --> 01:10:43,699
in 2009 in November when they said

1603
01:10:49,430 --> 01:10:47,100
they've said look the the uh the James

1604
01:10:52,010 --> 01:10:49,440
Webb Telescope is up now it's

1605
01:10:54,350 --> 01:10:52,020
functioning now it's it's shocking

1606
01:10:56,270 --> 01:10:54,360
everybody with the extraordinary data

1607
01:10:58,490 --> 01:10:56,280
that it's Gathering and they're they're

1608
01:11:01,430 --> 01:10:58,500
totally convinced that they're now

1609
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:01,440
starting to discover the initial signs

1610
01:11:07,189 --> 01:11:04,560
of life elsewhere in the universe and so

1611
01:11:09,229 --> 01:11:07,199
that this moment that we're at is not

1612
01:11:11,990 --> 01:11:09,239
just coming to grips with the UAP

1613
01:11:15,110 --> 01:11:12,000
phenomenon as as crucial as that is

1614
01:11:19,189 --> 01:11:15,120
about coming to grips with the reality

1615
01:11:22,490 --> 01:11:19,199
that our human species is not in fact at

1616
01:11:24,070 --> 01:11:22,500
the Apex of all biological evolution in

1617
01:11:27,410 --> 01:11:24,080
the universe

1618
01:11:30,050 --> 01:11:27,420
we're far short of that that's right but

1619
01:11:31,970 --> 01:11:30,060
but the point is that that while we for

1620
01:11:33,890 --> 01:11:31,980
thousands of years knew that we were far

1621
01:11:35,350 --> 01:11:33,900
short of perfection we didn't really

1622
01:11:37,370 --> 01:11:35,360
know that there was any other

1623
01:11:40,010 --> 01:11:37,380
intelligent life anywhere in the

1624
01:11:43,370 --> 01:11:40,020
universe and that we therefore had

1625
01:11:45,950 --> 01:11:43,380
hypothesized these angels and in spirits

1626
01:11:47,930 --> 01:11:45,960
and all kinds of other things but we

1627
01:11:49,910 --> 01:11:47,940
didn't we didn't actually come to grips

1628
01:11:51,890 --> 01:11:49,920
in any kind of functional way with the

1629
01:11:55,310 --> 01:11:51,900
existence of an actual extraterrestrial

1630
01:11:56,930 --> 01:11:55,320
civilization of other beings and so what

1631
01:11:59,930 --> 01:11:56,940
what the church has said in that

1632
01:12:02,090 --> 01:11:59,940
November 2009 statement official

1633
01:12:03,830 --> 01:12:02,100
statement from the Vatican following a

1634
01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:03,840
long series of meetings with scientists

1635
01:12:10,010 --> 01:12:06,000
and astrobiologists and others and they

1636
01:12:13,430 --> 01:12:10,020
said look they said look in light of the

1637
01:12:15,229 --> 01:12:13,440
the uh the discovery of more and more of

1638
01:12:17,270 --> 01:12:15,239
these new exoplanets

1639
01:12:20,090 --> 01:12:17,280
in light of the launching of these

1640
01:12:22,490 --> 01:12:20,100
space-based telescopes now that it's

1641
01:12:24,530 --> 01:12:22,500
very clear that much sooner that had

1642
01:12:26,990 --> 01:12:24,540
been previously anticipated

1643
01:12:29,450 --> 01:12:27,000
we are going to discover ex life

1644
01:12:31,970 --> 01:12:29,460
elsewhere in the universe and therefore

1645
01:12:33,709 --> 01:12:31,980
the time has arrived to have an

1646
01:12:35,810 --> 01:12:33,719
extraordinarily important conversation

1647
01:12:37,370 --> 01:12:35,820
among our human family of the

1648
01:12:39,169 --> 01:12:37,380
philosophical and Theological

1649
01:12:41,810 --> 01:12:39,179
implications

1650
01:12:44,270 --> 01:12:41,820
of what this means to us to discover

1651
01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:44,280
that we're not alone in the universe and

1652
01:12:47,930 --> 01:12:45,840
that we're not at the Apex of all

1653
01:12:49,970 --> 01:12:47,940
biological evolution what does this mean

1654
01:12:52,310 --> 01:12:49,980
for our human family what does this mean

1655
01:12:54,290 --> 01:12:52,320
about our sense of self-esteem what does

1656
01:12:56,750 --> 01:12:54,300
this mean for our relationship with

1657
01:12:59,390 --> 01:12:56,760
other civilizations that may be vastly

1658
01:13:02,030 --> 01:12:59,400
superior to ours economically you know

1659
01:13:04,430 --> 01:13:02,040
and even potentially spiritually what

1660
01:13:07,970 --> 01:13:04,440
what is what is the risk that is is

1661
01:13:11,689 --> 01:13:07,980
presented to us of of our failure of

1662
01:13:13,729 --> 01:13:11,699
nerve here uh as a as a species so so

1663
01:13:15,410 --> 01:13:13,739
these are are profoundly important

1664
01:13:18,950 --> 01:13:15,420
things that that really need to be

1665
01:13:21,410 --> 01:13:18,960
discussed and nowhere nowhere other than

1666
01:13:24,350 --> 01:13:21,420
what the origins are and the intentions

1667
01:13:26,450 --> 01:13:24,360
are of the UFO objects themselves

1668
01:13:28,310 --> 01:13:26,460
is there any kind of coming to grips

1669
01:13:30,890 --> 01:13:28,320
with these profound fundamental

1670
01:13:33,890 --> 01:13:30,900
questions and representatives of our

1671
01:13:37,189 --> 01:13:33,900
people that are here in Congress are are

1672
01:13:40,070 --> 01:13:37,199
so taken up with the issue of the UFO

1673
01:13:41,810 --> 01:13:40,080
phenomenon itself that they have not yet

1674
01:13:43,490 --> 01:13:41,820
started to come to grips with these

1675
01:13:45,770 --> 01:13:43,500
profound questions that really need to

1676
01:13:48,050 --> 01:13:45,780
be answered and that therefore our

1677
01:13:49,729 --> 01:13:48,060
people ourselves have to step forward

1678
01:13:52,070 --> 01:13:49,739
and start to have these conversations

1679
01:13:53,810 --> 01:13:52,080
that all of us and Jimmy you and I bet

1680
01:13:56,450 --> 01:13:53,820
we must have been to a hundred you know

1681
01:13:58,850 --> 01:13:56,460
different Gatherings together over the

1682
01:14:00,410 --> 01:13:58,860
years and and everybody's talking about

1683
01:14:01,850 --> 01:14:00,420
the UFOs and how the government is

1684
01:14:03,229 --> 01:14:01,860
hiding things and secret stuff and

1685
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:03,239
what's the technology look like et

1686
01:14:07,189 --> 01:14:05,520
cetera yeah and and some people have

1687
01:14:10,010 --> 01:14:07,199
drifted off into this other kind of

1688
01:14:11,570 --> 01:14:10,020
Nether world of oh these must be

1689
01:14:13,189 --> 01:14:11,580
wonderful people they must be coming

1690
01:14:15,169 --> 01:14:13,199
here to help us everything's going to be

1691
01:14:17,810 --> 01:14:15,179
fantastic you know they're going to cure

1692
01:14:20,270 --> 01:14:17,820
our cancer you know but but there's not

1693
01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:20,280
a realistic conversation going on here

1694
01:14:26,090 --> 01:14:23,280
uh about you know about what is it how

1695
01:14:28,310 --> 01:14:26,100
are we going to prepare for contact with

1696
01:14:29,689 --> 01:14:28,320
this extraterrestrial civilization what

1697
01:14:31,490 --> 01:14:29,699
are going to be the public policy

1698
01:14:32,870 --> 01:14:31,500
ramifications of this what are good

1699
01:14:35,570 --> 01:14:32,880
what's going to be the impact on our

1700
01:14:38,270 --> 01:14:35,580
religious institutions and then our our

1701
01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:38,280
our Economic Institutions Etc you know

1702
01:14:43,370 --> 01:14:41,520
these are the it's almost shocking that

1703
01:14:45,530 --> 01:14:43,380
that we could be coming as close as we

1704
01:14:47,290 --> 01:14:45,540
are to fully recognizing the existence

1705
01:14:50,149 --> 01:14:47,300
of this extraterrestrial civilization

1706
01:14:52,370 --> 01:14:50,159
through the prism of the UFO phenomenon

1707
01:14:54,350 --> 01:14:52,380
is still not coming to grips with these

1708
01:14:56,689 --> 01:14:54,360
more profound questions that we have to

1709
01:14:59,689 --> 01:14:56,699
do and so that's another part of this

1710
01:15:02,090 --> 01:14:59,699
UFO C3 that we're we're hoping to get

1711
01:15:03,229 --> 01:15:02,100
put together here as a coalition of all

1712
01:15:05,330 --> 01:15:03,239
of our people that have been working

1713
01:15:07,850 --> 01:15:05,340
together for decades together to say

1714
01:15:10,189 --> 01:15:07,860
look at that we have to set up a process

1715
01:15:11,930 --> 01:15:10,199
by means of which these profound

1716
01:15:13,810 --> 01:15:11,940
questions are going to begin to get

1717
01:15:17,270 --> 01:15:13,820
addressed in a professional

1718
01:15:19,490 --> 01:15:17,280
comprehensive responsible way so that we

1719
01:15:21,110 --> 01:15:19,500
can put choices to our people through a

1720
01:15:23,570 --> 01:15:21,120
democratic process as to what we're

1721
01:15:26,149 --> 01:15:23,580
going to choose to do here uh what's on

1722
01:15:29,810 --> 01:15:26,159
the agenda for December 8th with you and

1723
01:15:32,870 --> 01:15:29,820
Lou and uh the odni well this this is uh

1724
01:15:35,810 --> 01:15:32,880
this is the the ongoing complaint that

1725
01:15:37,310 --> 01:15:35,820
Lou has lodged you know uh originally

1726
01:15:41,510 --> 01:15:37,320
with the defense department saying look

1727
01:15:44,510 --> 01:15:41,520
at uh the the the ongoing efforts on the

1728
01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:44,520
part of major forces inside the the

1729
01:15:49,729 --> 01:15:46,800
defense department and also inside the

1730
01:15:52,390 --> 01:15:49,739
intelligence Community to stifle you

1731
01:15:56,390 --> 01:15:52,400
know access to this information

1732
01:15:58,910 --> 01:15:56,400
beyond anything that is legitimate in

1733
01:16:00,649 --> 01:15:58,920
terms of National Security that this is

1734
01:16:02,990 --> 01:16:00,659
this is something that the inspector

1735
01:16:05,450 --> 01:16:03,000
General should be responsible for in the

1736
01:16:07,490 --> 01:16:05,460
intelligence Community not just the you

1737
01:16:09,410 --> 01:16:07,500
know their knee-jerk reaction is to

1738
01:16:11,209 --> 01:16:09,420
classify everything you know classify

1739
01:16:12,770 --> 01:16:11,219
the size of the shoes of the Director of

1740
01:16:14,750 --> 01:16:12,780
National Intelligence I mean who cares

1741
01:16:16,490 --> 01:16:14,760
what the size of the shoes are but what

1742
01:16:19,010 --> 01:16:16,500
they do is they have this blanket

1743
01:16:20,930 --> 01:16:19,020
proposal of just classifying everything

1744
01:16:23,450 --> 01:16:20,940
and what we're trying to say is look at

1745
01:16:25,810 --> 01:16:23,460
this we're objecting to this this is

1746
01:16:28,550 --> 01:16:25,820
this is something that is causing

1747
01:16:30,709 --> 01:16:28,560
retaliation of a form against Lou

1748
01:16:32,810 --> 01:16:30,719
Elizondo because that's just to have

1749
01:16:34,430 --> 01:16:32,820
standing in order to have standing to to

1750
01:16:37,010 --> 01:16:34,440
get in to talk with the Inspector

1751
01:16:39,350 --> 01:16:37,020
General and and the dni the people that

1752
01:16:40,790 --> 01:16:39,360
are actually working involved in setting

1753
01:16:42,410 --> 01:16:40,800
up this office and deciding what they're

1754
01:16:45,470 --> 01:16:42,420
going to do here what we're trying to do

1755
01:16:47,630 --> 01:16:45,480
is say look look at let's let's try to

1756
01:16:50,630 --> 01:16:47,640
understand what the actual legitimate

1757
01:16:52,790 --> 01:16:50,640
area of jurisdiction is you know for the

1758
01:16:54,649 --> 01:16:52,800
inspector General's office the Inspector

1759
01:16:57,649 --> 01:16:54,659
General is going to be responsible for

1760
01:17:00,530 --> 01:16:57,659
making sure that this office functions

1761
01:17:03,890 --> 01:17:00,540
and that it functions you know uh freely

1762
01:17:05,149 --> 01:17:03,900
and honestly and they know that they're

1763
01:17:06,169 --> 01:17:05,159
going to be pushed back against this

1764
01:17:07,490 --> 01:17:06,179
they know they're going to be people

1765
01:17:09,290 --> 01:17:07,500
who've got to cut the legs out from

1766
01:17:11,390 --> 01:17:09,300
under this thing the same people have

1767
01:17:12,830 --> 01:17:11,400
been keeping it secret for decades and

1768
01:17:15,709 --> 01:17:12,840
so that we're going in to have a

1769
01:17:17,510 --> 01:17:15,719
conversation among other things of what

1770
01:17:21,169 --> 01:17:17,520
is it the Inspector General intends to

1771
01:17:24,110 --> 01:17:21,179
do to do some kind of forward-leaning uh

1772
01:17:26,270 --> 01:17:24,120
prophylactic process by means of which

1773
01:17:28,070 --> 01:17:26,280
to prevent this from happening rather

1774
01:17:31,130 --> 01:17:28,080
than wait until somebody gets beaten up

1775
01:17:34,850 --> 01:17:31,140
on you know and then come in and put

1776
01:17:37,970 --> 01:17:34,860
Band-Aids on them sure sure and so all

1777
01:17:41,810 --> 01:17:37,980
of this is this in direct reference to

1778
01:17:44,030 --> 01:17:41,820
let's say Susan Goff uh saying that Lou

1779
01:17:45,649 --> 01:17:44,040
had nothing to do with anything that's

1780
01:17:47,149 --> 01:17:45,659
the defense department you know but

1781
01:17:50,810 --> 01:17:47,159
there's but there's people inside the

1782
01:17:53,209 --> 01:17:50,820
intelligence under the oodni and the

1783
01:17:54,590 --> 01:17:53,219
inspector General's office correct well

1784
01:17:56,630 --> 01:17:54,600
there's so you see there's a defense

1785
01:17:58,070 --> 01:17:56,640
department Inspector General and then

1786
01:18:00,410 --> 01:17:58,080
there's the office of director of

1787
01:18:01,970 --> 01:18:00,420
intelligence too that there there are

1788
01:18:04,070 --> 01:18:01,980
different inspector General's offices

1789
01:18:05,930 --> 01:18:04,080
and so the one of the challenges that

1790
01:18:08,090 --> 01:18:05,940
we've had is they they all start trying

1791
01:18:10,970 --> 01:18:08,100
to interpret their range of jurisdiction

1792
01:18:12,649 --> 01:18:10,980
in the most narrow possible way to say

1793
01:18:14,750 --> 01:18:12,659
oh you're outside our problem you know

1794
01:18:16,729 --> 01:18:14,760
that you don't you don't qualify for our

1795
01:18:19,010 --> 01:18:16,739
particular protection you know and

1796
01:18:22,189 --> 01:18:19,020
nobody is taking responsibility for the

1797
01:18:23,870 --> 01:18:22,199
more General uh protection of this whole

1798
01:18:25,790 --> 01:18:23,880
process this in the process of getting

1799
01:18:26,990 --> 01:18:25,800
set up here so what we want to do is we

1800
01:18:29,330 --> 01:18:27,000
want to have a meaningful set of

1801
01:18:31,550 --> 01:18:29,340
conversations to to see if there are

1802
01:18:33,470 --> 01:18:31,560
people people inside the inspector

1803
01:18:35,030 --> 01:18:33,480
General's offices of the intelligence

1804
01:18:36,050 --> 01:18:35,040
Community who are going to take this

1805
01:18:38,450 --> 01:18:36,060
seriously

1806
01:18:40,729 --> 01:18:38,460
and are going to be proactive and are

1807
01:18:43,070 --> 01:18:40,739
going to going to come up side by side

1808
01:18:44,510 --> 01:18:43,080
shoulder by shoulder to protect this

1809
01:18:46,850 --> 01:18:44,520
process that's getting ready to get put

1810
01:18:48,950 --> 01:18:46,860
together that's that's going to be one

1811
01:18:51,890 --> 01:18:48,960
of the agenda items to be talking about

1812
01:18:53,030 --> 01:18:51,900
now does the odni or the Inspector

1813
01:18:55,729 --> 01:18:53,040
General

1814
01:18:58,130 --> 01:18:55,739
um uh do they have a full understanding

1815
01:19:00,290 --> 01:18:58,140
what the scope of all of this is that we

1816
01:19:02,689 --> 01:19:00,300
are talking about you know an

1817
01:19:04,030 --> 01:19:02,699
extraterrestrial civilization in contact

1818
01:19:08,030 --> 01:19:04,040
with Earth

1819
01:19:11,630 --> 01:19:08,040
sap programs and and disclosure do they

1820
01:19:14,149 --> 01:19:11,640
is that do they understand what this

1821
01:19:17,270 --> 01:19:14,159
conversation really is they try very

1822
01:19:19,970 --> 01:19:17,280
hard not to but but the fact of the

1823
01:19:21,709 --> 01:19:19,980
matter is that you know they they swim

1824
01:19:23,689 --> 01:19:21,719
in the same ocean uh they're in

1825
01:19:25,370 --> 01:19:23,699
Washington DC as everybody else and they

1826
01:19:28,669 --> 01:19:25,380
know that this thing is front and center

1827
01:19:31,010 --> 01:19:28,679
right now uh and that they and their the

1828
01:19:32,689 --> 01:19:31,020
problem is that people and you know I

1829
01:19:34,790 --> 01:19:32,699
don't I don't want to be you know

1830
01:19:37,010 --> 01:19:34,800
patronizing to people who work in

1831
01:19:38,810 --> 01:19:37,020
government you know but people who spend

1832
01:19:40,250 --> 01:19:38,820
their entire lives working in the

1833
01:19:43,250 --> 01:19:40,260
military and then working in government

1834
01:19:46,130 --> 01:19:43,260
are used to just taking orders you know

1835
01:19:47,750 --> 01:19:46,140
and that they they realize that that the

1836
01:19:50,870 --> 01:19:47,760
one thing you don't do is You Don't Step

1837
01:19:53,030 --> 01:19:50,880
Beyond the area that you're you're

1838
01:19:55,910 --> 01:19:53,040
Superior wants you to do

1839
01:19:57,830 --> 01:19:55,920
because they'll punish you for it you

1840
01:20:00,290 --> 01:19:57,840
know and that you won't get advances you

1841
01:20:02,510 --> 01:20:00,300
won't have a career left you know and so

1842
01:20:05,630 --> 01:20:02,520
all of these people are of a very

1843
01:20:08,209 --> 01:20:05,640
different kind of person uh than for

1844
01:20:10,010 --> 01:20:08,219
example I am who functions in the public

1845
01:20:12,110 --> 01:20:10,020
interest and trying to work on behalf of

1846
01:20:13,669 --> 01:20:12,120
the people to get the Constitution to

1847
01:20:16,550 --> 01:20:13,679
function the way it really is supposed

1848
01:20:18,649 --> 01:20:16,560
to and get the government agencies to do

1849
01:20:20,209 --> 01:20:18,659
what they're really supposed to do you

1850
01:20:21,410 --> 01:20:20,219
know uh you know it's the it's the thing

1851
01:20:24,709 --> 01:20:21,420
in Chinatown remember the famous

1852
01:20:27,410 --> 01:20:24,719
Chinatown thing when when uh uh Faye

1853
01:20:29,930 --> 01:20:27,420
Dunaway asked Jack Nicholson you know uh

1854
01:20:31,250 --> 01:20:29,940
uh said you know gee I understand you

1855
01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:31,260
worked for the District Attorney's

1856
01:20:35,209 --> 01:20:33,120
Office in Chinatown he said yeah I said

1857
01:20:38,950 --> 01:20:35,219
what did you do there he said as little

1858
01:20:41,689 --> 01:20:38,960
as possible yeah best scene in in

1859
01:20:44,689 --> 01:20:41,699
because because you couldn't always tell

1860
01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:44,699
what was going on in Chinatown okay and

1861
01:20:49,669 --> 01:20:46,080
so and that's the problem inside

1862
01:20:51,350 --> 01:20:49,679
Washington DC is that people are afraid

1863
01:20:53,209 --> 01:20:51,360
they're guarding their jobs they're

1864
01:20:54,530 --> 01:20:53,219
guarding their pensions and so what

1865
01:20:56,390 --> 01:20:54,540
we're trying to do is to say look at

1866
01:20:58,729 --> 01:20:56,400
this is an extraordinarily important

1867
01:21:00,229 --> 01:20:58,739
moment for our entire Human family it's

1868
01:21:02,330 --> 01:21:00,239
an extraordinarily important moment for

1869
01:21:04,010 --> 01:21:02,340
democracy it's an extraordinarily

1870
01:21:05,930 --> 01:21:04,020
important moment for constitutional

1871
01:21:08,510 --> 01:21:05,940
government and what we're trying to do

1872
01:21:09,970 --> 01:21:08,520
is to see who are the people who are the

1873
01:21:13,250 --> 01:21:09,980
people that are willing to step forward

1874
01:21:14,990 --> 01:21:13,260
in in break out of the mold of doing as

1875
01:21:18,830 --> 01:21:15,000
little as they can possibly get away

1876
01:21:21,470 --> 01:21:18,840
with here to protect this process this

1877
01:21:22,729 --> 01:21:21,480
is this is a a sacred process that's

1878
01:21:24,830 --> 01:21:22,739
happening right now with our human

1879
01:21:26,810 --> 01:21:24,840
family and we're trying to figure out

1880
01:21:29,030 --> 01:21:26,820
who the Allies are going to be that are

1881
01:21:30,649 --> 01:21:29,040
going to help do this uh and so that's

1882
01:21:31,970 --> 01:21:30,659
that's what we're that's one of the

1883
01:21:33,229 --> 01:21:31,980
things we're going into Washington and

1884
01:21:34,669 --> 01:21:33,239
we're going to talk to the we're going

1885
01:21:36,590 --> 01:21:34,679
to talk to the Senators the senator

1886
01:21:38,209 --> 01:21:36,600
Warner and Senator Rubio and their staff

1887
01:21:39,950 --> 01:21:38,219
and the people that are working for the

1888
01:21:41,630 --> 01:21:39,960
intelligence community in the in the

1889
01:21:44,570 --> 01:21:41,640
intelligence committees to find out

1890
01:21:46,010 --> 01:21:44,580
where the Allies are not people that are

1891
01:21:47,930 --> 01:21:46,020
subversive not people that are going to

1892
01:21:50,270 --> 01:21:47,940
be insubordinate to their to their

1893
01:21:52,490 --> 01:21:50,280
superiors but the people who really

1894
01:21:55,550 --> 01:21:52,500
place the effectuation of the mission

1895
01:21:57,830 --> 01:21:55,560
that we're talking about here above you

1896
01:22:01,010 --> 01:21:57,840
know some kind of a short-term uh

1897
01:22:03,290 --> 01:22:01,020
concern about what might go wrong uh in

1898
01:22:05,090 --> 01:22:03,300
their career uh because this isn't the

1899
01:22:06,770 --> 01:22:05,100
moment for that you know this is this is

1900
01:22:09,350 --> 01:22:06,780
the point in time when a mistakes that

1901
01:22:12,290 --> 01:22:09,360
could be made here can can ReSound

1902
01:22:14,570 --> 01:22:12,300
through centuries into the future and so

1903
01:22:17,030 --> 01:22:14,580
that we want to be as careful and and as

1904
01:22:19,570 --> 01:22:17,040
responsible as we possibly can here

1905
01:22:23,090 --> 01:22:19,580
it has the

1906
01:22:26,149 --> 01:22:23,100
has is the cat out of the bag when it

1907
01:22:28,790 --> 01:22:26,159
comes to uh the E.T question right

1908
01:22:32,030 --> 01:22:28,800
everything has really been pushed down

1909
01:22:35,630 --> 01:22:32,040
into the media and and to Congress and

1910
01:22:38,810 --> 01:22:35,640
and talk shows and and and social media

1911
01:22:41,330 --> 01:22:38,820
I mean it is out front and center that's

1912
01:22:44,630 --> 01:22:41,340
right but the world didn't uh implode

1913
01:22:48,350 --> 01:22:44,640
inside of a black hole right that didn't

1914
01:22:51,530 --> 01:22:48,360
happen no mainly because a lot of the a

1915
01:22:54,649 --> 01:22:51,540
lot of the institutions have not yet

1916
01:22:57,290 --> 01:22:54,659
decided exactly what it is they're going

1917
01:23:00,830 --> 01:22:57,300
to do about this the they they've been

1918
01:23:02,930 --> 01:23:00,840
trying for 75 years to keep it secret uh

1919
01:23:05,270 --> 01:23:02,940
and to denigrate it and castigate people

1920
01:23:07,850 --> 01:23:05,280
who even talk about now we're past that

1921
01:23:11,930 --> 01:23:07,860
now uh and the public didn't freak out

1922
01:23:13,729 --> 01:23:11,940
right which was always what was the

1923
01:23:15,470 --> 01:23:13,739
stated you know you go back to the

1924
01:23:18,070 --> 01:23:15,480
condom report or you go back to the

1925
01:23:20,990 --> 01:23:18,080
Robertson panel sure you know

1926
01:23:22,970 --> 01:23:21,000
there's going to be Anarchy right there

1927
01:23:25,010 --> 01:23:22,980
but there's been 75 years as you know

1928
01:23:27,229 --> 01:23:25,020
Jimmy of Feathering all this stuff into

1929
01:23:28,910 --> 01:23:27,239
the society you take the average

1930
01:23:31,490 --> 01:23:28,920
five-year-old and they can draw you an

1931
01:23:33,169 --> 01:23:31,500
E.T uh in the you know they're kind of

1932
01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:33,179
not afraid of them you know that there's

1933
01:23:37,729 --> 01:23:35,040
been there's been an extraordinarily

1934
01:23:40,430 --> 01:23:37,739
sophisticated process that's gone on

1935
01:23:43,250 --> 01:23:40,440
over the last 75 years of Feathering

1936
01:23:44,709 --> 01:23:43,260
this reality into the culture now we

1937
01:23:48,050 --> 01:23:44,719
don't know yet

1938
01:23:49,970 --> 01:23:48,060
exactly how how professionally

1939
01:23:52,550 --> 01:23:49,980
choreographed that whole thing has been

1940
01:23:54,590 --> 01:23:52,560
or exactly who the players were that

1941
01:23:56,209 --> 01:23:54,600
have been involved in all that but it's

1942
01:23:58,010 --> 01:23:56,219
it's quite clear that there's been an

1943
01:24:00,050 --> 01:23:58,020
extraordinarily sophisticated program

1944
01:24:02,050 --> 01:24:00,060
that's been going on of Dripping

1945
01:24:05,450 --> 01:24:02,060
information into the public and

1946
01:24:08,149 --> 01:24:05,460
utilizing people you know such as Linda

1947
01:24:09,590 --> 01:24:08,159
Moulton Howe and myself and in in Greer

1948
01:24:11,870 --> 01:24:09,600
and other people you know they're given

1949
01:24:13,669 --> 01:24:11,880
pieces of information and and then you

1950
01:24:15,709 --> 01:24:13,679
put out the information and then people

1951
01:24:17,750 --> 01:24:15,719
deny half of it and acknowledge half of

1952
01:24:20,870 --> 01:24:17,760
it you know there's been a process so

1953
01:24:24,050 --> 01:24:20,880
the the people are now much much better

1954
01:24:26,510 --> 01:24:24,060
prepared for this than they were 75

1955
01:24:28,070 --> 01:24:26,520
years ago uh and I think that we're at

1956
01:24:30,950 --> 01:24:28,080
the point right now where we're we're

1957
01:24:33,830 --> 01:24:30,960
the the cat is effectively out of the

1958
01:24:35,750 --> 01:24:33,840
bag with regard to the existence well

1959
01:24:38,030 --> 01:24:35,760
with regard to the reality of the UFO

1960
01:24:40,669 --> 01:24:38,040
phenomenon it's very hard it's very hard

1961
01:24:43,310 --> 01:24:40,679
to acknowledge the reality of the UFO

1962
01:24:44,630 --> 01:24:43,320
phenomenon without it not in denying

1963
01:24:46,550 --> 01:24:44,640
that they're Chinese and denying that

1964
01:24:48,709 --> 01:24:46,560
there Russians are denying that they're

1965
01:24:50,510 --> 01:24:48,719
American and not realize that the

1966
01:24:52,610 --> 01:24:50,520
implication is that there's something

1967
01:24:54,649 --> 01:24:52,620
else going on here there's something

1968
01:24:56,930 --> 01:24:54,659
there's something at an entirely

1969
01:24:59,149 --> 01:24:56,940
different level of reality that's going

1970
01:25:00,830 --> 01:24:59,159
on here and this is the transition that

1971
01:25:03,470 --> 01:25:00,840
our human family has to go through now

1972
01:25:06,950 --> 01:25:03,480
that there's another dimension of

1973
01:25:09,950 --> 01:25:06,960
reality uh that we have not fully

1974
01:25:12,590 --> 01:25:09,960
integrated yet and so the in the people

1975
01:25:15,350 --> 01:25:12,600
the people have not been trained for the

1976
01:25:18,110 --> 01:25:15,360
most part even in democracy to do the

1977
01:25:19,610 --> 01:25:18,120
creative thinking ourselves that most of

1978
01:25:22,010 --> 01:25:19,620
the people have been trained to wait for

1979
01:25:23,750 --> 01:25:22,020
institutions to tell them what it is

1980
01:25:25,790 --> 01:25:23,760
that they're supposed to believe this is

1981
01:25:27,530 --> 01:25:25,800
an epistemological question you know

1982
01:25:29,930 --> 01:25:27,540
that the with our our whole education

1983
01:25:32,570 --> 01:25:29,940
system you know and that people have not

1984
01:25:34,370 --> 01:25:32,580
been trained to do this and so that what

1985
01:25:36,530 --> 01:25:34,380
this this move on the part of Congress

1986
01:25:39,530 --> 01:25:36,540
to step into this area

1987
01:25:41,870 --> 01:25:39,540
and take control of this information is

1988
01:25:45,110 --> 01:25:41,880
just the first step they have not yet

1989
01:25:47,689 --> 01:25:45,120
decided what it is they want to do about

1990
01:25:50,270 --> 01:25:47,699
this yet and so the people are in a

1991
01:25:52,610 --> 01:25:50,280
sense waiting to see what Congress is

1992
01:25:54,050 --> 01:25:52,620
going to do about this the executive

1993
01:25:55,010 --> 01:25:54,060
branch has already made clear what

1994
01:25:57,709 --> 01:25:55,020
they're going to do about it they're

1995
01:26:00,470 --> 01:25:57,719
going to hide it conceal it you know uh

1996
01:26:02,990 --> 01:26:00,480
obfuscate it lie about it and then try

1997
01:26:04,490 --> 01:26:03,000
to try to develop weapons with it I mean

1998
01:26:06,470 --> 01:26:04,500
they've already made their decision what

1999
01:26:09,830 --> 01:26:06,480
they want to do with it sure Congress is

2000
01:26:12,110 --> 01:26:09,840
going to come in well then you have uh

2001
01:26:15,110 --> 01:26:12,120
you know Bray and Moultrie uh you know

2002
01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:15,120
being brought up as uh the the first two

2003
01:26:20,870 --> 01:26:18,480
witnesses uh for this UFO here right who

2004
01:26:22,790 --> 01:26:20,880
didn't know anything that claimed that

2005
01:26:26,510 --> 01:26:22,800
they absolutely knew nothing about

2006
01:26:28,490 --> 01:26:26,520
nothing and what this is a UFO hearing

2007
01:26:32,629 --> 01:26:28,500
Oh I thought we were going to talk about

2008
01:26:34,129 --> 01:26:32,639
something else and if if if that is the

2009
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:34,139
case

2010
01:26:40,010 --> 01:26:36,480
um is is Bray a Moultrie are they talk

2011
01:26:42,649 --> 01:26:40,020
talking to Elizondo are they is Elizondo

2012
01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:42,659
a consultant with that committee he's

2013
01:26:48,770 --> 01:26:44,719
talking about the committee

2014
01:26:50,270 --> 01:26:48,780
of course with the task force is the

2015
01:26:53,629 --> 01:26:50,280
test for the task force is not

2016
01:26:58,030 --> 01:26:53,639
functional task force but Bray and

2017
01:27:00,950 --> 01:26:58,040
Moultrie were they uh were they okay

2018
01:27:02,330 --> 01:27:00,960
they were Flags no they were not they

2019
01:27:05,390 --> 01:27:02,340
were they're just Flags they were sent

2020
01:27:07,610 --> 01:27:05,400
there to to to just try to fill in the

2021
01:27:08,990 --> 01:27:07,620
space yeah because because the Carson

2022
01:27:10,970 --> 01:27:09,000
you know insisted upon having the

2023
01:27:12,350 --> 01:27:10,980
hearing and so somebody had to get sent

2024
01:27:14,149 --> 01:27:12,360
down so they sent people down who

2025
01:27:16,790 --> 01:27:14,159
basically didn't know anything you know

2026
01:27:18,290 --> 01:27:16,800
and we're so embarrassed that they would

2027
01:27:20,030 --> 01:27:18,300
would display the fact they didn't know

2028
01:27:22,610 --> 01:27:20,040
anything I mean when people when people

2029
01:27:25,790 --> 01:27:22,620
people say oh by the way did you know

2030
01:27:27,770 --> 01:27:25,800
that there were official reports of UFOs

2031
01:27:29,450 --> 01:27:27,780
coming over our nuclear weapon sites and

2032
01:27:33,370 --> 01:27:29,460
shutting off their missiles and think oh

2033
01:27:38,810 --> 01:27:36,410
excuse me I mean that just it was it was

2034
01:27:40,729 --> 01:27:38,820
Beyond embarrassing uh and so the it

2035
01:27:42,110 --> 01:27:40,739
that what they were saying is that the

2036
01:27:43,729 --> 01:27:42,120
executive branch was basically giving

2037
01:27:45,590 --> 01:27:43,739
the back of the hand to the legislature

2038
01:27:47,090 --> 01:27:45,600
against we don't care if you call our

2039
01:27:48,649 --> 01:27:47,100
people up here we'll send you people who

2040
01:27:51,830 --> 01:27:48,659
don't know what they're talking about so

2041
01:27:54,169 --> 01:27:51,840
so the the question is what is Congress

2042
01:27:57,169 --> 01:27:54,179
going to do about this and the the

2043
01:27:59,090 --> 01:27:57,179
challenge is is that Congress you know

2044
01:28:02,649 --> 01:27:59,100
is made up of all these individuals and

2045
01:28:06,050 --> 01:28:02,659
the question is what type of collective

2046
01:28:08,510 --> 01:28:06,060
constitutional Consciousness does the

2047
01:28:10,669 --> 01:28:08,520
Congress have at the present time

2048
01:28:12,169 --> 01:28:10,679
you know with this kind of divided

2049
01:28:14,330 --> 01:28:12,179
leadership between the Republicans the

2050
01:28:16,370 --> 01:28:14,340
Democrats with this strange thing going

2051
01:28:18,770 --> 01:28:16,380
on inside the Republican party of these

2052
01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:18,780
extreme weirdo reactionaries trying to

2053
01:28:22,430 --> 01:28:20,880
take over the entire party you know and

2054
01:28:23,990 --> 01:28:22,440
then other elements the more traditional

2055
01:28:27,709 --> 01:28:24,000
elements of the Republican Party trying

2056
01:28:30,229 --> 01:28:27,719
to salvage the reputation in long-time

2057
01:28:32,870 --> 01:28:30,239
deserved merits of the Republican party

2058
01:28:34,129 --> 01:28:32,880
and the conservative movement and on the

2059
01:28:36,610 --> 01:28:34,139
other hand you've got inside the

2060
01:28:39,169 --> 01:28:36,620
Democratic party you've got the the

2061
01:28:41,030 --> 01:28:39,179
neoliberals that have come into kind of

2062
01:28:43,129 --> 01:28:41,040
the ascendancy since the end of the Cold

2063
01:28:45,410 --> 01:28:43,139
War and then you've got the progressives

2064
01:28:48,110 --> 01:28:45,420
you know with with Bernie Sanders and

2065
01:28:50,510 --> 01:28:48,120
Elizabeth Warren and AOC and the other

2066
01:28:52,550 --> 01:28:50,520
people you know who are saying look at

2067
01:28:54,890 --> 01:28:52,560
you've got to get into the 21st century

2068
01:28:56,149 --> 01:28:54,900
here you know that that you're the the

2069
01:28:57,470 --> 01:28:56,159
people are going to be younger and

2070
01:28:59,810 --> 01:28:57,480
younger they're going to be coming into

2071
01:29:01,729 --> 01:28:59,820
the political parties that there's a

2072
01:29:03,590 --> 01:29:01,739
great deal of instability going on right

2073
01:29:06,590 --> 01:29:03,600
now and so that well one of the things

2074
01:29:09,950 --> 01:29:06,600
we have to do is try to reinforce and

2075
01:29:13,669 --> 01:29:09,960
Safeguard the sense of of constitutional

2076
01:29:15,770 --> 01:29:13,679
Integrity on the part of Congress itself

2077
01:29:18,050 --> 01:29:15,780
to see whether or not Congress is going

2078
01:29:20,030 --> 01:29:18,060
to stand up and say look at that we've

2079
01:29:22,910 --> 01:29:20,040
we've allowed the executive branch to

2080
01:29:25,970 --> 01:29:22,920
your serp this particular all-important

2081
01:29:27,950 --> 01:29:25,980
issue area for 75 years the time has

2082
01:29:30,290 --> 01:29:27,960
arrived now for us to step into a

2083
01:29:32,870 --> 01:29:30,300
position of leadership and at least get

2084
01:29:34,610 --> 01:29:32,880
ourselves informed as to what's going on

2085
01:29:36,470 --> 01:29:34,620
but they've still given a great deal of

2086
01:29:38,689 --> 01:29:36,480
deference to the executive branch here

2087
01:29:40,310 --> 01:29:38,699
by allowing the defense the Secretary of

2088
01:29:42,229 --> 01:29:40,320
Defense and the secret the Director of

2089
01:29:44,870 --> 01:29:42,239
National Intelligence to actually hand

2090
01:29:47,270 --> 01:29:44,880
pick who the director is and run this

2091
01:29:49,910 --> 01:29:47,280
operation under the auspices of the

2092
01:29:53,689 --> 01:29:49,920
military intelligence community so they

2093
01:29:55,850 --> 01:29:53,699
they still haven't they haven't taken an

2094
01:29:57,830 --> 01:29:55,860
extraordinary risk here of pulling this

2095
01:29:59,629 --> 01:29:57,840
completely out of the hands of the

2096
01:30:01,430 --> 01:29:59,639
executive branch and putting it in the

2097
01:30:03,770 --> 01:30:01,440
hands of the legislature so they're

2098
01:30:05,209 --> 01:30:03,780
they're trying to see how much that what

2099
01:30:08,110 --> 01:30:05,219
they need to do what they're going to do

2100
01:30:16,990 --> 01:30:13,610
how can we feel confident that Gallagher

2101
01:30:21,050 --> 01:30:17,000
Carson burchett

2102
01:30:24,530 --> 01:30:21,060
and and others right it certainly moves

2103
01:30:28,669 --> 01:30:24,540
to uh Jilla brand is yes Marco Rubio

2104
01:30:31,550 --> 01:30:28,679
who's going to keep them focused I think

2105
01:30:33,770 --> 01:30:31,560
I think it's going to be a a partnership

2106
01:30:36,290 --> 01:30:33,780
between Senator Warner and Senator Rubio

2107
01:30:38,870 --> 01:30:36,300
is is going to really be the key to this

2108
01:30:42,770 --> 01:30:38,880
thing you know the the the common ground

2109
01:30:44,510 --> 01:30:42,780
that those two establish uh as to what

2110
01:30:47,930 --> 01:30:44,520
it is they're going to insist upon

2111
01:30:50,930 --> 01:30:47,940
really being done uh is is going to be

2112
01:30:52,370 --> 01:30:50,940
extremely important you know even though

2113
01:30:54,050 --> 01:30:52,380
you know they say over again it's a

2114
01:30:55,970 --> 01:30:54,060
government of laws and not of men but

2115
01:30:58,870 --> 01:30:55,980
but the fact of the matter is the the

2116
01:31:02,390 --> 01:30:58,880
personalities here are are all important

2117
01:31:04,850 --> 01:31:02,400
uh let me get let me get that that's my

2118
01:31:06,110 --> 01:31:04,860
phone going out sorry let me get rid of

2119
01:31:10,490 --> 01:31:06,120
it

2120
01:31:12,830 --> 01:31:10,500
and uh as uh what was his ringtone did

2121
01:31:15,350 --> 01:31:12,840
you guys hear that was that is your

2122
01:31:19,010 --> 01:31:15,360
ringtone I'm back your ringtone is

2123
01:31:21,709 --> 01:31:19,020
Millie Vanilli yes Sarah it's my my no

2124
01:31:24,850 --> 01:31:21,719
the ringtone the ringtone yeah that's it

2125
01:31:28,610 --> 01:31:24,860
no it's Sarah is the song Oh Sarah

2126
01:31:31,669 --> 01:31:28,620
Starship yeah who is also your your your

2127
01:31:33,110 --> 01:31:31,679
wife and 50 years for 47 years let me

2128
01:31:35,570 --> 01:31:33,120
tell you something she's one of the

2129
01:31:37,910 --> 01:31:35,580
coolest people I have ever hung out with

2130
01:31:39,770 --> 01:31:37,920
yes she is remember that remember that

2131
01:31:41,510 --> 01:31:39,780
I'm just going to say this where we're

2132
01:31:44,149 --> 01:31:41,520
in the middle of this thing but we had a

2133
01:31:46,070 --> 01:31:44,159
little party uh last year

2134
01:31:50,030 --> 01:31:46,080
and she came up she goes Jimmy am I

2135
01:31:54,169 --> 01:31:50,040
invited I go you come on though yeah we

2136
01:31:56,709 --> 01:31:54,179
had a great time uh so um Rubio is Rubio

2137
01:32:00,229 --> 01:31:56,719
and Warner are really gonna uh I really

2138
01:32:03,770 --> 01:32:00,239
gillibrand is is has other aspirations

2139
01:32:05,870 --> 01:32:03,780
you know uh and uh and and they all do

2140
01:32:09,410 --> 01:32:05,880
that's what they're there for but but I

2141
01:32:11,450 --> 01:32:09,420
I think that that uh that I I don't I

2142
01:32:15,110 --> 01:32:11,460
don't think that Rubio is going to be

2143
01:32:16,970 --> 01:32:15,120
running against Trump uh this cycle uh

2144
01:32:19,790 --> 01:32:16,980
so he's going to be concentrating on

2145
01:32:22,070 --> 01:32:19,800
doing his job on this particular issue I

2146
01:32:25,070 --> 01:32:22,080
think this issue is one of the the

2147
01:32:26,930 --> 01:32:25,080
primary issues for Senator Rubio and I

2148
01:32:29,450 --> 01:32:26,940
think that uh Senator Warner from

2149
01:32:31,669 --> 01:32:29,460
Virginia realizes how extraordinarily

2150
01:32:35,689 --> 01:32:31,679
important this issue is and the two of

2151
01:32:38,629 --> 01:32:35,699
them you see eye to eye on this issue

2152
01:32:40,669 --> 01:32:38,639
and they are going to insist that the

2153
01:32:43,669 --> 01:32:40,679
the Congress re-established its

2154
01:32:46,310 --> 01:32:43,679
Authority in this particular area uh and

2155
01:32:48,770 --> 01:32:46,320
so that I think if they if they stay

2156
01:32:51,110 --> 01:32:48,780
steadfast in this and that they have the

2157
01:32:54,950 --> 01:32:51,120
support of the people on the house side

2158
01:32:57,169 --> 01:32:54,960
in this and they they make this office

2159
01:32:58,850 --> 01:32:57,179
is is going to one of the things can be

2160
01:33:01,250 --> 01:32:58,860
absolutely important is this office and

2161
01:33:04,189 --> 01:33:01,260
it's it's Troublesome in a democracy but

2162
01:33:05,930 --> 01:33:04,199
that it's got to be almost completely

2163
01:33:10,790 --> 01:33:05,940
leak-proof

2164
01:33:13,610 --> 01:33:10,800
this office uh and then decisions have

2165
01:33:15,410 --> 01:33:13,620
to be made by the Congress as to what

2166
01:33:17,510 --> 01:33:15,420
they're going to decide as

2167
01:33:18,890 --> 01:33:17,520
representatives of the people that

2168
01:33:21,770 --> 01:33:18,900
they're going to release to the people

2169
01:33:25,550 --> 01:33:21,780
how do you make it leak proof and and

2170
01:33:30,169 --> 01:33:25,560
let me let me just go sort of on the

2171
01:33:31,310 --> 01:33:30,179
record Danny you and I know what uh the

2172
01:33:33,410 --> 01:33:31,320
community went through over the last

2173
01:33:35,209 --> 01:33:33,420
couple of years with leaked videos and

2174
01:33:37,729 --> 01:33:35,219
leaked statements and leaked photographs

2175
01:33:40,550 --> 01:33:37,739
and leaked this leaked information from

2176
01:33:42,950 --> 01:33:40,560
the last report sure even the page count

2177
01:33:45,590 --> 01:33:42,960
was leaked out

2178
01:33:48,290 --> 01:33:45,600
um and I I knew the page I never leaked

2179
01:33:51,350 --> 01:33:48,300
anything but there were people out there

2180
01:33:53,990 --> 01:33:51,360
uh inside of the government inside of

2181
01:33:56,689 --> 01:33:54,000
the Department of Defense uh that were

2182
01:33:58,490 --> 01:33:56,699
leaking uh stuff out uh to the media

2183
01:34:00,470 --> 01:33:58,500
because because they knew that there

2184
01:34:02,930 --> 01:34:00,480
wasn't a good faith process going on

2185
01:34:04,490 --> 01:34:02,940
that that's part of the promises in in

2186
01:34:06,410 --> 01:34:04,500
Washington that if there's not a good

2187
01:34:08,629 --> 01:34:06,420
faith process that's going on done

2188
01:34:09,830 --> 01:34:08,639
people are going to go around it and

2189
01:34:12,410 --> 01:34:09,840
they're going to say look at this is

2190
01:34:14,629 --> 01:34:12,420
unfair this is unconstitutional this is

2191
01:34:17,090 --> 01:34:14,639
illegal and so therefore they feel

2192
01:34:18,649 --> 01:34:17,100
morally righteous about doing some of

2193
01:34:21,229 --> 01:34:18,659
this stuff and that's what I'm saying is

2194
01:34:23,390 --> 01:34:21,239
if this office functions in a way that

2195
01:34:25,850 --> 01:34:23,400
is completely responsible

2196
01:34:27,169 --> 01:34:25,860
uh and I think you're going to get an

2197
01:34:29,450 --> 01:34:27,179
awful lot of people that are going to

2198
01:34:31,010 --> 01:34:29,460
cooperate with this office they're going

2199
01:34:32,209 --> 01:34:31,020
to bring them the information they're

2200
01:34:33,830 --> 01:34:32,219
they're not going to leak the

2201
01:34:36,050 --> 01:34:33,840
information out they're going to talk

2202
01:34:38,990 --> 01:34:36,060
about now this sounds anti-democratic

2203
01:34:41,930 --> 01:34:39,000
but because I I do believe that there's

2204
01:34:44,270 --> 01:34:41,940
you know 85 percent of all of this

2205
01:34:47,330 --> 01:34:44,280
information has been classified doesn't

2206
01:34:48,950 --> 01:34:47,340
need to be classified you know and so

2207
01:34:52,610 --> 01:34:48,960
that what's going to happen here is if

2208
01:34:55,370 --> 01:34:52,620
if the if if Warner and Rubio in their

2209
01:34:57,410 --> 01:34:55,380
staffs function uh in a way in a lot of

2210
01:34:59,330 --> 01:34:57,420
it's going to be with with Rubio and

2211
01:35:01,070 --> 01:34:59,340
Warner themselves I think they're going

2212
01:35:03,830 --> 01:35:01,080
to talk to a lot of these Witnesses

2213
01:35:05,689 --> 01:35:03,840
directly face to face you know in a

2214
01:35:07,850 --> 01:35:05,699
skiff they're they're not even going to

2215
01:35:09,590 --> 01:35:07,860
have some of their staff of being

2216
01:35:12,050 --> 01:35:09,600
talking to some of these key Witnesses

2217
01:35:14,149 --> 01:35:12,060
because they they want to know that they

2218
01:35:17,209 --> 01:35:14,159
know the two of them know what's going

2219
01:35:19,310 --> 01:35:17,219
on so that that both political parties

2220
01:35:21,530 --> 01:35:19,320
will are represented in that they're

2221
01:35:23,330 --> 01:35:21,540
informed about what is this going on in

2222
01:35:25,430 --> 01:35:23,340
the Senate side they're going to inform

2223
01:35:26,930 --> 01:35:25,440
from the people over on the house side

2224
01:35:29,030 --> 01:35:26,940
the house intelligence committee the

2225
01:35:31,129 --> 01:35:29,040
house defense department committee and

2226
01:35:32,390 --> 01:35:31,139
they're going to know you know what this

2227
01:35:34,790 --> 01:35:32,400
information is and they're going to get

2228
01:35:37,490 --> 01:35:34,800
together and they say look at that in

2229
01:35:40,189 --> 01:35:37,500
light of what we now know what is it

2230
01:35:40,970 --> 01:35:40,199
that we as the representatives of the

2231
01:35:43,790 --> 01:35:40,980
people

2232
01:35:45,350 --> 01:35:43,800
what is it we're going to do about this

2233
01:35:47,450 --> 01:35:45,360
and what are we going to do about the

2234
01:35:49,790 --> 01:35:47,460
fact that the executive branch still has

2235
01:35:52,490 --> 01:35:49,800
major powerful elements in it that are

2236
01:35:55,270 --> 01:35:52,500
going to not want us to do it how are we

2237
01:35:58,129 --> 01:35:55,280
going to proceed in this this is

2238
01:35:59,930 --> 01:35:58,139
astonishingly important moment uh and

2239
01:36:01,250 --> 01:35:59,940
it's it's all going to be happening it's

2240
01:36:04,270 --> 01:36:01,260
all going to be happening basically

2241
01:36:07,010 --> 01:36:04,280
between now and the election in November

2242
01:36:10,189 --> 01:36:07,020
2024. well all the chaos is going on

2243
01:36:12,950 --> 01:36:10,199
around us now were you

2244
01:36:14,870 --> 01:36:12,960
um were you surprised and I certainly

2245
01:36:17,750 --> 01:36:14,880
want to know if you've had any inside

2246
01:36:20,870 --> 01:36:17,760
track on on this were you surprised that

2247
01:36:23,750 --> 01:36:20,880
there were uh there was a media there's

2248
01:36:26,629 --> 01:36:23,760
you know one of the one of the tabloids

2249
01:36:30,410 --> 01:36:26,639
out of the United Kingdom uh you know

2250
01:36:34,129 --> 01:36:30,420
pops out oh the report is stating this

2251
01:36:38,450 --> 01:36:34,139
and then we had other uh media outlets

2252
01:36:40,310 --> 01:36:38,460
and and members of the community that

2253
01:36:42,229 --> 01:36:40,320
were also given information and that

2254
01:36:44,149 --> 01:36:42,239
were talking about what the contents of

2255
01:36:48,649 --> 01:36:44,159
this report was and it sounds sounds

2256
01:36:51,890 --> 01:36:48,659
like somebody somewhere that has an

2257
01:36:54,590 --> 01:36:51,900
important Voice or position is is

2258
01:36:58,930 --> 01:36:54,600
leaking stuff out in advance and then it

2259
01:37:03,470 --> 01:37:01,610
right none of it's true you know there's

2260
01:37:05,209 --> 01:37:03,480
and there is no report there's nothing

2261
01:37:07,070 --> 01:37:05,219
going on I'm trying to tell you there's

2262
01:37:09,229 --> 01:37:07,080
nothing happening there's no there's

2263
01:37:11,570 --> 01:37:09,239
nothing there and so they're all waiting

2264
01:37:14,510 --> 01:37:11,580
for for these important decisions to be

2265
01:37:17,149 --> 01:37:14,520
made as it should be the these these

2266
01:37:19,910 --> 01:37:17,159
decisions need to be getting made now be

2267
01:37:22,610 --> 01:37:19,920
made seriously and and be made effective

2268
01:37:26,750 --> 01:37:22,620
and if that happens in this office

2269
01:37:29,270 --> 01:37:26,760
functions in a responsible way then I

2270
01:37:31,729 --> 01:37:29,280
think a lot of this chatter and a lot of

2271
01:37:34,790 --> 01:37:31,739
the making up stuff and a lot of the the

2272
01:37:37,729 --> 01:37:34,800
uh the kind of go around them and leak

2273
01:37:40,550 --> 01:37:37,739
stuff is gonna is gonna subside because

2274
01:37:42,709 --> 01:37:40,560
if if people have confidence in the

2275
01:37:44,930 --> 01:37:42,719
governing structures people will utilize

2276
01:37:46,850 --> 01:37:44,940
the governing structures you know I I've

2277
01:37:50,149 --> 01:37:46,860
been a large part over the last 50 years

2278
01:37:51,649 --> 01:37:50,159
and undermining you know Blind Faith in

2279
01:37:54,770 --> 01:37:51,659
the institutions of the United States

2280
01:37:57,530 --> 01:37:54,780
government if I may say so myself and

2281
01:37:59,510 --> 01:37:57,540
and it's deservedly so because they were

2282
01:38:00,950 --> 01:37:59,520
totally out of control you know the

2283
01:38:02,450 --> 01:38:00,960
Central Intelligence Agency and the

2284
01:38:04,310 --> 01:38:02,460
operation directorate and the covert

2285
01:38:05,870 --> 01:38:04,320
operations and assassinations and drug

2286
01:38:08,149 --> 01:38:05,880
smuggling all the stuff that they've

2287
01:38:10,310 --> 01:38:08,159
been doing you know and and the fact of

2288
01:38:12,410 --> 01:38:10,320
the matter is that we have we have hit

2289
01:38:15,530 --> 01:38:12,420
kind of a high water mark with that that

2290
01:38:17,870 --> 01:38:15,540
we've we've effectively uh removed the

2291
01:38:20,030 --> 01:38:17,880
Blind Faith of the American people in

2292
01:38:21,890 --> 01:38:20,040
the institutions themselves and I think

2293
01:38:25,189 --> 01:38:21,900
the time has come now for us to start to

2294
01:38:27,350 --> 01:38:25,199
kind of reconstruct you know effective

2295
01:38:30,169 --> 01:38:27,360
institutions under a constitutional

2296
01:38:31,729 --> 01:38:30,179
democracy to show that the

2297
01:38:34,129 --> 01:38:31,739
constitutional democracy can function

2298
01:38:35,930 --> 01:38:34,139
and that's why I'm hoping this office is

2299
01:38:38,689 --> 01:38:35,940
going to be able to do to demonstrate to

2300
01:38:41,149 --> 01:38:38,699
people that government can work can be

2301
01:38:43,370 --> 01:38:41,159
honest can come to grips with profoundly

2302
01:38:46,370 --> 01:38:43,380
important issues like this and do it

2303
01:38:47,930 --> 01:38:46,380
responsibly and if we can do that people

2304
01:38:50,090 --> 01:38:47,940
are going to cooperate and people are

2305
01:38:52,490 --> 01:38:50,100
going to come back to support what's

2306
01:38:54,950 --> 01:38:52,500
being done here but but responsible

2307
01:38:57,290 --> 01:38:54,960
decisions need to be made here they need

2308
01:39:01,550 --> 01:38:57,300
to be made and but that's why I believe

2309
01:39:03,050 --> 01:39:01,560
this uh this uh C3 this UFO C3

2310
01:39:04,970 --> 01:39:03,060
organization that we're talking about

2311
01:39:07,610 --> 01:39:04,980
putting together you know we're talking

2312
01:39:09,830 --> 01:39:07,620
about it right now the The Institute for

2313
01:39:12,169 --> 01:39:09,840
preparing our human family for contact

2314
01:39:14,990 --> 01:39:12,179
you know that's what this is this is an

2315
01:39:17,270 --> 01:39:15,000
actual preparation of our human family

2316
01:39:19,970 --> 01:39:17,280
for contact with an extraterrestrial

2317
01:39:21,950 --> 01:39:19,980
civilization this is an extraordinarily

2318
01:39:23,870 --> 01:39:21,960
important undertaking here and

2319
01:39:25,669 --> 01:39:23,880
unfortunately the institutions of

2320
01:39:27,590 --> 01:39:25,679
government have not started to undertake

2321
01:39:29,390 --> 01:39:27,600
this process yet they're still just

2322
01:39:31,850 --> 01:39:29,400
trying to deal with a UFO issue right

2323
01:39:34,189 --> 01:39:31,860
now so what we're hoping to do is to be

2324
01:39:36,229 --> 01:39:34,199
able to set up a template pursuant to

2325
01:39:38,750 --> 01:39:36,239
which our governing structures can do

2326
01:39:40,790 --> 01:39:38,760
this cooperatively uh and bring our

2327
01:39:42,590 --> 01:39:40,800
people to a point of understanding

2328
01:39:44,629 --> 01:39:42,600
what's going on appreciating what's

2329
01:39:46,850 --> 01:39:44,639
going on not for freaking out about

2330
01:39:49,129 --> 01:39:46,860
what's going on and be in relationship

2331
01:39:51,649 --> 01:39:49,139
with the various Faith communities to

2332
01:39:53,689 --> 01:39:51,659
get them to adjust some of their

2333
01:39:56,270 --> 01:39:53,699
mythology that's been developed you know

2334
01:39:58,010 --> 01:39:56,280
back in the Middle Ages you know when 99

2335
01:40:00,830 --> 01:39:58,020
of the people couldn't even read or

2336
01:40:02,930 --> 01:40:00,840
write you know uh that we we've got to

2337
01:40:05,090 --> 01:40:02,940
update our institutions we have to

2338
01:40:07,250 --> 01:40:05,100
update our our religious beliefs we have

2339
01:40:09,290 --> 01:40:07,260
to update our philosophical beliefs our

2340
01:40:11,629 --> 01:40:09,300
metaphysical understanding of our place

2341
01:40:14,689 --> 01:40:11,639
in the universe this is what's really

2342
01:40:18,350 --> 01:40:14,699
going on now and this is a perfectly

2343
01:40:21,050 --> 01:40:18,360
appropriate undertaking for the

2344
01:40:22,910 --> 01:40:21,060
government structures to be involved in

2345
01:40:25,129 --> 01:40:22,920
facilitating these kind of conversations

2346
01:40:28,430 --> 01:40:25,139
you know and so that's what that's what

2347
01:40:30,350 --> 01:40:28,440
the the UFO C3 is is going to be doing

2348
01:40:32,510 --> 01:40:30,360
we're going to be setting up offices

2349
01:40:34,189 --> 01:40:32,520
down in Los Angeles there's a lot of

2350
01:40:37,070 --> 01:40:34,199
people that have already offered funding

2351
01:40:39,410 --> 01:40:37,080
for this to to get offices set up and to

2352
01:40:41,330 --> 01:40:39,420
begin to staff this operation and to be

2353
01:40:42,950 --> 01:40:41,340
responsible and for us to reach out and

2354
01:40:44,090 --> 01:40:42,960
establish a working relationship with

2355
01:40:46,189 --> 01:40:44,100
the people that are going to be in in

2356
01:40:48,709 --> 01:40:46,199
this new office to make sure they know

2357
01:40:50,629 --> 01:40:48,719
that we're attending to them and paying

2358
01:40:52,189 --> 01:40:50,639
attention to what they're doing and are

2359
01:40:54,470 --> 01:40:52,199
going to be monitoring the effectiveness

2360
01:40:56,330 --> 01:40:54,480
and and we're not going to we're not

2361
01:40:58,430 --> 01:40:56,340
going to go away the people are not

2362
01:41:01,250 --> 01:40:58,440
going to going to go back into the

2363
01:41:04,610 --> 01:41:01,260
closet on this particular issue the the

2364
01:41:07,910 --> 01:41:04,620
cat is out of the bag now yeah I I agree

2365
01:41:11,689 --> 01:41:07,920
with that now if you uh if you could

2366
01:41:13,910 --> 01:41:11,699
wave a magic wand and there is another

2367
01:41:16,129 --> 01:41:13,920
hearing and there should be something in

2368
01:41:19,930 --> 01:41:16,139
the Senate too as well it shouldn't just

2369
01:41:24,229 --> 01:41:19,940
be a a house subcommittee right

2370
01:41:27,290 --> 01:41:24,239
who should be called as Witnesses should

2371
01:41:30,229 --> 01:41:27,300
we have some civilians brought in say uh

2372
01:41:33,290 --> 01:41:30,239
Richard Dolan uh do we have military

2373
01:41:35,810 --> 01:41:33,300
Dave fraver and and other John Burroughs

2374
01:41:40,270 --> 01:41:35,820
would certainly be a pretty good witness

2375
01:41:44,570 --> 01:41:40,280
to uh to call and testify well would you

2376
01:41:47,510 --> 01:41:44,580
have uh have called well my my sense is

2377
01:41:49,850 --> 01:41:47,520
this is that they they first need to get

2378
01:41:52,790 --> 01:41:49,860
this office functional

2379
01:41:54,770 --> 01:41:52,800
uh it is going to be so important you

2380
01:41:56,750 --> 01:41:54,780
know it's it's uh it's like it's like

2381
01:41:58,550 --> 01:41:56,760
saying you know uh who do you think

2382
01:42:01,250 --> 01:41:58,560
ought to drive this car when you don't

2383
01:42:02,810 --> 01:42:01,260
have the engine working yet you know and

2384
01:42:04,609 --> 01:42:02,820
what I'm saying is that I think if we

2385
01:42:07,010 --> 01:42:04,619
can get this office set up in a

2386
01:42:08,570 --> 01:42:07,020
responsible way with responsible staff

2387
01:42:11,390 --> 01:42:08,580
people in it that are really

2388
01:42:14,030 --> 01:42:11,400
forward-leaning and are responsible and

2389
01:42:15,770 --> 01:42:14,040
are are trustworthy about what what it

2390
01:42:17,570 --> 01:42:15,780
is that they're doing then what we're

2391
01:42:21,070 --> 01:42:17,580
going to do is real to have to make a

2392
01:42:24,770 --> 01:42:21,080
decision what type of external pressure

2393
01:42:26,570 --> 01:42:24,780
may have to still be applied to get them

2394
01:42:28,970 --> 01:42:26,580
to function more effectively and more

2395
01:42:30,830 --> 01:42:28,980
honestly and that's what the purpose of

2396
01:42:33,229 --> 01:42:30,840
the hearings are about is to bring in

2397
01:42:34,910 --> 01:42:33,239
people to put pressure on the executive

2398
01:42:36,470 --> 01:42:34,920
branch because this is still an

2399
01:42:38,629 --> 01:42:36,480
executive branch office that we're

2400
01:42:40,209 --> 01:42:38,639
talking about so who would you who would

2401
01:42:43,910 --> 01:42:40,219
you bring forward

2402
01:42:46,010 --> 01:42:43,920
I I wouldn't right at this point I

2403
01:42:48,169 --> 01:42:46,020
wouldn't I think it's premature because

2404
01:42:50,629 --> 01:42:48,179
because what you're doing then is you're

2405
01:42:53,209 --> 01:42:50,639
you're wading into an area with too many

2406
01:42:55,729 --> 01:42:53,219
unknowns right now because you don't you

2407
01:42:58,790 --> 01:42:55,739
you you don't need to offend people you

2408
01:43:01,010 --> 01:42:58,800
don't need to uh to to challenge people

2409
01:43:03,350 --> 01:43:01,020
or threaten people right now what we

2410
01:43:05,090 --> 01:43:03,360
need to do is get them to do their job

2411
01:43:06,890 --> 01:43:05,100
right now we've got to get this thing

2412
01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:06,900
passed we've got to get but the first

2413
01:43:12,590 --> 01:43:08,880
thing we need to do is to get the

2414
01:43:15,790 --> 01:43:12,600
Republican party to agree to approve the

2415
01:43:21,470 --> 01:43:18,530
I guess what you know in in a more

2416
01:43:23,990 --> 01:43:21,480
direct sense what I'm getting to is we

2417
01:43:26,510 --> 01:43:24,000
have the Wilson Davis document is now

2418
01:43:29,990 --> 01:43:26,520
part of uh the Congressional Record yeah

2419
01:43:33,530 --> 01:43:30,000
bring Wilson bring Eric Davis sit them

2420
01:43:36,830 --> 01:43:33,540
down and and answer some questions uh

2421
01:43:39,830 --> 01:43:36,840
bring bring Oak Shannon in what are you

2422
01:43:42,350 --> 01:43:39,840
guys talking about here are we but

2423
01:43:46,010 --> 01:43:42,360
privately what I'm saying is you can get

2424
01:43:48,169 --> 01:43:46,020
you can get the for example Rubio and

2425
01:43:50,870 --> 01:43:48,179
were and the people can talk to these

2426
01:43:53,169 --> 01:43:50,880
people privately to find out what it is

2427
01:43:55,850 --> 01:43:53,179
that they're willing to say to them okay

2428
01:43:58,070 --> 01:43:55,860
not not a public not a public hearing

2429
01:43:59,810 --> 01:43:58,080
because the public hearing you're going

2430
01:44:01,430 --> 01:43:59,820
to get you know 18 different people

2431
01:44:03,350 --> 01:44:01,440
coming in and misinterpreting what

2432
01:44:06,530 --> 01:44:03,360
they're saying and attacking them you

2433
01:44:08,689 --> 01:44:06,540
know there need to be us there are a

2434
01:44:11,290 --> 01:44:08,699
series of private conversations that are

2435
01:44:15,470 --> 01:44:11,300
going on now in Washington DC right now

2436
01:44:18,169 --> 01:44:15,480
uh with important people uh to to get

2437
01:44:20,510 --> 01:44:18,179
information into the hands of of Rubio

2438
01:44:23,870 --> 01:44:20,520
and Warner in in some of their staff

2439
01:44:25,370 --> 01:44:23,880
people uh and and that's and we need to

2440
01:44:27,770 --> 01:44:25,380
see how the politics are going to play

2441
01:44:30,530 --> 01:44:27,780
out here the unfortunate reality of it

2442
01:44:34,070 --> 01:44:30,540
is in a democracy like this with an

2443
01:44:36,290 --> 01:44:34,080
election coming up in 2024 with people

2444
01:44:39,290 --> 01:44:36,300
already announcing their candidacies you

2445
01:44:41,330 --> 01:44:39,300
know is that the problem is is that it's

2446
01:44:43,729 --> 01:44:41,340
sort of like in war you know truth is

2447
01:44:47,090 --> 01:44:43,739
the first victim in in a political

2448
01:44:49,609 --> 01:44:47,100
campaign you know objectivity uh is one

2449
01:44:51,109 --> 01:44:49,619
of the very first victims and so this is

2450
01:44:52,729 --> 01:44:51,119
such an important thing that we want to

2451
01:44:54,890 --> 01:44:52,739
try to remain objective about and

2452
01:44:57,169 --> 01:44:54,900
responsible about that we have to have

2453
01:44:59,689 --> 01:44:57,179
these conversations going on you know

2454
01:45:02,030 --> 01:44:59,699
with these people who have have secure

2455
01:45:03,410 --> 01:45:02,040
seats they're not they're not in the 33

2456
01:45:05,990 --> 01:45:03,420
Senate seats that are going to be coming

2457
01:45:07,609 --> 01:45:06,000
up for election in 2024 it's not going

2458
01:45:09,530 --> 01:45:07,619
to be with candidates who are trying to

2459
01:45:11,450 --> 01:45:09,540
compete for the presidency and are going

2460
01:45:13,430 --> 01:45:11,460
to misuse the information that they get

2461
01:45:16,070 --> 01:45:13,440
that we've got to have serious state

2462
01:45:19,850 --> 01:45:16,080
these people working on this between now

2463
01:45:22,010 --> 01:45:19,860
and 2024 uh and and we need to see

2464
01:45:24,229 --> 01:45:22,020
whether or not you know it's going to be

2465
01:45:25,609 --> 01:45:24,239
just more Joe Biden you know for the

2466
01:45:27,050 --> 01:45:25,619
Democratic party and whether it's going

2467
01:45:30,350 --> 01:45:27,060
to be Donald Trump for the Republican

2468
01:45:32,209 --> 01:45:30,360
party again you know or or whether you

2469
01:45:34,250 --> 01:45:32,219
know somebody else is going to rise up

2470
01:45:37,189 --> 01:45:34,260
as as the representatives for those

2471
01:45:38,750 --> 01:45:37,199
political parties uh but this this work

2472
01:45:41,209 --> 01:45:38,760
that's going to be going on in Congress

2473
01:45:43,910 --> 01:45:41,219
the Senate the Senate is going to be

2474
01:45:47,770 --> 01:45:43,920
able to function on this issue this

2475
01:45:51,109 --> 01:45:47,780
issue is probably the most bipartisan

2476
01:45:53,090 --> 01:45:51,119
issue that I have ever seen

2477
01:45:55,490 --> 01:45:53,100
in Congress and I've been dealing with

2478
01:45:57,890 --> 01:45:55,500
Congress for like 50 years now yes you

2479
01:45:59,570 --> 01:45:57,900
have and uh and I've been meeting with

2480
01:46:02,390 --> 01:45:59,580
lots of senators this is the most

2481
01:46:04,970 --> 01:46:02,400
bipartisan issue that I've that I've

2482
01:46:07,970 --> 01:46:04,980
ever seen because they know how

2483
01:46:09,590 --> 01:46:07,980
extraordinarily important it is uh and

2484
01:46:11,530 --> 01:46:09,600
so they're they're they're working very

2485
01:46:14,810 --> 01:46:11,540
carefully to try to get this thing right

2486
01:46:17,930 --> 01:46:14,820
and I hope that they do that Danny you

2487
01:46:19,930 --> 01:46:17,940
mentioned uh that there are parties

2488
01:46:23,209 --> 01:46:19,940
right now in Washington

2489
01:46:27,709 --> 01:46:23,219
uh attempting to get information to

2490
01:46:31,729 --> 01:46:27,719
Rubio what what what information is this

2491
01:46:34,729 --> 01:46:31,739
is this stuff uh cases that haven't been

2492
01:46:38,649 --> 01:46:34,739
is it physics is it science is there

2493
01:46:42,109 --> 01:46:38,659
something what information would be uh

2494
01:46:44,810 --> 01:46:42,119
would would Rubio need to see and who

2495
01:46:46,609 --> 01:46:44,820
would give it to him well Rubio Rubio

2496
01:46:49,250 --> 01:46:46,619
has seen a good deal of information

2497
01:46:51,050 --> 01:46:49,260
because he has his clearances uh that

2498
01:46:54,350 --> 01:46:51,060
are they're necessary but he is not yet

2499
01:46:57,530 --> 01:46:54,360
have been let into the interstate inner

2500
01:46:59,209 --> 01:46:57,540
sanctum of this thing uh the people the

2501
01:47:02,330 --> 01:46:59,219
people who are still guarding that door

2502
01:47:05,450 --> 01:47:02,340
are still guarding it uh and there are

2503
01:47:08,030 --> 01:47:05,460
there are in in the problem is is that

2504
01:47:11,930 --> 01:47:08,040
in in the Congress they don't want to

2505
01:47:13,910 --> 01:47:11,940
invite a person in and ask them to tell

2506
01:47:15,890 --> 01:47:13,920
them something that they know the person

2507
01:47:18,229 --> 01:47:15,900
isn't going to tell them

2508
01:47:20,570 --> 01:47:18,239
because that's just that's not

2509
01:47:22,790 --> 01:47:20,580
constructive uh you know uh but but

2510
01:47:25,129 --> 01:47:22,800
there there are a handful of people you

2511
01:47:27,290 --> 01:47:25,139
know who they are uh a lot of them you

2512
01:47:30,050 --> 01:47:27,300
know kit green and and help put off and

2513
01:47:33,229 --> 01:47:30,060
uh and some of the folks Bigelow folks

2514
01:47:37,910 --> 01:47:33,239
around this area for 50 years who know

2515
01:47:40,129 --> 01:47:37,920
an awful lot an awful lot you know but

2516
01:47:41,570 --> 01:47:40,139
uh but there there's still not they're

2517
01:47:44,450 --> 01:47:41,580
still not the people that are at the

2518
01:47:46,910 --> 01:47:44,460
very heart of this of this group that

2519
01:47:49,729 --> 01:47:46,920
that is controlling the information you

2520
01:47:51,890 --> 01:47:49,739
know uh and so that the in those people

2521
01:47:53,450 --> 01:47:51,900
are not going to talk they're gonna

2522
01:47:55,250 --> 01:47:53,460
they're gonna squat down on this

2523
01:48:00,470 --> 01:47:55,260
information as long as they possibly can

2524
01:48:02,689 --> 01:48:00,480
yeah but what is uh uh I I totally

2525
01:48:06,109 --> 01:48:02,699
appreciate that but

2526
01:48:07,910 --> 01:48:06,119
um my question is what is it that Rubio

2527
01:48:09,950 --> 01:48:07,920
needs to see

2528
01:48:12,050 --> 01:48:09,960
he's already got a security clearance I

2529
01:48:15,109 --> 01:48:12,060
totally get that yeah that's information

2530
01:48:17,930 --> 01:48:15,119
coming from the dod and classified

2531
01:48:20,570 --> 01:48:17,940
briefings and that's got us it's its own

2532
01:48:22,070 --> 01:48:20,580
slant yeah he doesn't he doesn't he

2533
01:48:25,729 --> 01:48:22,080
doesn't he doesn't have he doesn't have

2534
01:48:28,010 --> 01:48:25,739
the the uh the level of of clearances

2535
01:48:29,870 --> 01:48:28,020
that are necessary to have the

2536
01:48:32,209 --> 01:48:29,880
information that some of the some people

2537
01:48:34,609 --> 01:48:32,219
have about this right and positive he

2538
01:48:36,649 --> 01:48:34,619
does not and specifically what do you

2539
01:48:38,870 --> 01:48:36,659
think this information should be

2540
01:48:41,450 --> 01:48:38,880
oh it'll be it'll be the specific

2541
01:48:44,810 --> 01:48:41,460
information about the knowledge of the

2542
01:48:48,169 --> 01:48:44,820
actual existence of this civilization uh

2543
01:48:50,030 --> 01:48:48,179
and and what it is and the the degree of

2544
01:48:53,510 --> 01:48:50,040
contact that's actually been established

2545
01:48:57,050 --> 01:48:53,520
with them you know uh in that that this

2546
01:48:58,450 --> 01:48:57,060
is this is uh very very highly uh

2547
01:49:02,090 --> 01:48:58,460
guarded information

2548
01:49:04,729 --> 01:49:02,100
uh in the in the the it's more than a

2549
01:49:07,729 --> 01:49:04,739
special Access program uh this is this

2550
01:49:10,609 --> 01:49:07,739
is the the most carefully guarded secret

2551
01:49:12,950 --> 01:49:10,619
you know in in every government Circle

2552
01:49:13,790 --> 01:49:12,960
in the United States has more of it than

2553
01:49:16,970 --> 01:49:13,800
anybody

2554
01:49:19,370 --> 01:49:16,980
Gorbachev about this I've talked

2555
01:49:21,229 --> 01:49:19,380
directly with people about this and and

2556
01:49:24,050 --> 01:49:21,239
they know perfectly well that there is

2557
01:49:27,169 --> 01:49:24,060
this inner sanctum that has this

2558
01:49:29,930 --> 01:49:27,179
information uh and that they're closely

2559
01:49:32,330 --> 01:49:29,940
guarding it uh and the the problem is is

2560
01:49:34,129 --> 01:49:32,340
that they're up until this point they've

2561
01:49:36,410 --> 01:49:34,139
been part of this National Security

2562
01:49:38,330 --> 01:49:36,420
State apparatus and they're trying to

2563
01:49:41,930 --> 01:49:38,340
figure out how to utilize this

2564
01:49:44,689 --> 01:49:41,940
information on behalf of the unique

2565
01:49:47,450 --> 01:49:44,699
benefits of a given one nation state

2566
01:49:49,729 --> 01:49:47,460
and and that and they won't that is not

2567
01:49:50,810 --> 01:49:49,739
that is not the way that this can be or

2568
01:49:54,770 --> 01:49:50,820
should be done

2569
01:49:56,930 --> 01:49:54,780
you know this is this is a a human uh

2570
01:49:59,510 --> 01:49:56,940
point in history where we have to figure

2571
01:50:01,550 --> 01:49:59,520
out what to do about this so all these

2572
01:50:03,950 --> 01:50:01,560
structures that we have of the nation

2573
01:50:06,649 --> 01:50:03,960
states and the United Nations and all of

2574
01:50:09,169 --> 01:50:06,659
these uh highly imperfect structures

2575
01:50:12,770 --> 01:50:09,179
that we have right now need to be

2576
01:50:14,810 --> 01:50:12,780
visited in such a way is to update them

2577
01:50:16,790 --> 01:50:14,820
and these are the kind of conversations

2578
01:50:19,070 --> 01:50:16,800
that need to be had these conversations

2579
01:50:20,930 --> 01:50:19,080
about the implications of this reality

2580
01:50:22,490 --> 01:50:20,940
that we're dealing with now are a lot

2581
01:50:24,530 --> 01:50:22,500
more than just philosophical and

2582
01:50:26,149 --> 01:50:24,540
metaphysical and Theological they're

2583
01:50:28,129 --> 01:50:26,159
practical they're public policy

2584
01:50:30,590 --> 01:50:28,139
questions that are at stake here there

2585
01:50:32,930 --> 01:50:30,600
there are economic questions there are

2586
01:50:34,669 --> 01:50:32,940
technological questions there are all

2587
01:50:36,590 --> 01:50:34,679
kinds of important questions that need

2588
01:50:39,770 --> 01:50:36,600
to get addressed and they are not

2589
01:50:41,750 --> 01:50:39,780
getting addressed even by this office

2590
01:50:44,510 --> 01:50:41,760
that's being put up this office that's

2591
01:50:48,050 --> 01:50:44,520
being put up is narrowly focused on the

2592
01:50:51,109 --> 01:50:48,060
UAP phenomenon itself and so that we we

2593
01:50:52,550 --> 01:50:51,119
need to we need to expand this office we

2594
01:50:55,010 --> 01:50:52,560
need to get this office up and running

2595
01:50:56,689 --> 01:50:55,020
running effectively running honestly and

2596
01:50:59,629 --> 01:50:56,699
responsibly and we need to start

2597
01:51:01,850 --> 01:50:59,639
expanding this office and that's part of

2598
01:51:03,530 --> 01:51:01,860
what the the UFO C3

2599
01:51:06,410 --> 01:51:03,540
is that we're going to be talking about

2600
01:51:10,010 --> 01:51:06,420
the of the C3 amplifier is the 501c3

2601
01:51:11,870 --> 01:51:10,020
which is the tax deductible you know uh

2602
01:51:14,570 --> 01:51:11,880
a public interest organization that has

2603
01:51:16,370 --> 01:51:14,580
no commercial interest in in this it's

2604
01:51:18,530 --> 01:51:16,380
just a public interest organization to

2605
01:51:20,990 --> 01:51:18,540
try to bring the information together so

2606
01:51:23,390 --> 01:51:21,000
that we can start to craft what the

2607
01:51:25,850 --> 01:51:23,400
additional issues are that need to be

2608
01:51:28,550 --> 01:51:25,860
addressed by Congress and by the

2609
01:51:31,189 --> 01:51:28,560
representatives over and above how does

2610
01:51:33,169 --> 01:51:31,199
the technology work you know and do we

2611
01:51:35,330 --> 01:51:33,179
have any of the craft in hand and you

2612
01:51:37,910 --> 01:51:35,340
know and and uh what kind of a threat

2613
01:51:39,649 --> 01:51:37,920
might they pose to our nuclear forces

2614
01:51:41,149 --> 01:51:39,659
and all that you know we we've got to

2615
01:51:44,209 --> 01:51:41,159
have we've got to have much more

2616
01:51:46,729 --> 01:51:44,219
expansive uh deeply felt conversations

2617
01:51:49,669 --> 01:51:46,739
about what our human family needs to

2618
01:51:50,590 --> 01:51:49,679
think about in in this unique period of

2619
01:51:55,790 --> 01:51:50,600
History

2620
01:51:59,030 --> 01:51:55,800
the the quote from uh attributed to uh

2621
01:52:03,410 --> 01:51:59,040
Eric Davis uh in Blumenthal and Leslie

2622
01:52:05,390 --> 01:52:03,420
Kane's uh article uh uh two years ago uh

2623
01:52:07,550 --> 01:52:05,400
buried in that article uh down at the

2624
01:52:09,590 --> 01:52:07,560
bottom and I talked to Ralph Blumenthal

2625
01:52:11,090 --> 01:52:09,600
about this he said it was at the end of

2626
01:52:14,090 --> 01:52:11,100
the article for

2627
01:52:15,350 --> 01:52:14,100
for a reason that they couldn't start

2628
01:52:18,530 --> 01:52:15,360
with that

2629
01:52:21,649 --> 01:52:18,540
um is the quote uh where Eric Davis says

2630
01:52:23,510 --> 01:52:21,659
that he briefed this Senate in a

2631
01:52:26,629 --> 01:52:23,520
classified hearing and told the Senate

2632
01:52:30,350 --> 01:52:26,639
that we have crashed alien flying

2633
01:52:33,050 --> 01:52:30,360
saucers yeah right these are from that

2634
01:52:35,750 --> 01:52:33,060
all of the people involved believe that

2635
01:52:39,290 --> 01:52:35,760
it's extraterrestrial now if if that is

2636
01:52:40,609 --> 01:52:39,300
indeed the case yes if all of this you

2637
01:52:42,709 --> 01:52:40,619
know we know the cat is out of the bag

2638
01:52:44,510 --> 01:52:42,719
but if it comes out that we are in

2639
01:52:47,450 --> 01:52:44,520
possession and the Wilson Davis document

2640
01:52:49,970 --> 01:52:47,460
is correct and and Lockheed is backwards

2641
01:52:53,090 --> 01:52:49,980
engineering we've been in possession of

2642
01:52:55,070 --> 01:52:53,100
a high technology that could have fed

2643
01:52:57,649 --> 01:52:55,080
the world that could have heeded our

2644
01:52:59,870 --> 01:52:57,659
children's schools that that could have

2645
01:53:02,510 --> 01:52:59,880
answered all of the mass transportation

2646
01:53:06,050 --> 01:53:02,520
problems and the logistic issues and and

2647
01:53:09,530 --> 01:53:06,060
and the fossil fuel issues I think it's

2648
01:53:11,750 --> 01:53:09,540
not the fact that ETS are here that's

2649
01:53:15,129 --> 01:53:11,760
not what would freak people out but fact

2650
01:53:19,189 --> 01:53:15,139
that we have been manipulated by

2651
01:53:22,070 --> 01:53:19,199
fossil fuels and oil and the money

2652
01:53:25,250 --> 01:53:22,080
grubbing that is there that would upset

2653
01:53:28,669 --> 01:53:25,260
the planet no I don't that the my own

2654
01:53:30,950 --> 01:53:28,679
personal opinion is based on what I know

2655
01:53:33,169 --> 01:53:30,960
at this point is that they don't really

2656
01:53:36,590 --> 01:53:33,179
know how to make it work

2657
01:53:39,729 --> 01:53:36,600
because it's got a it's got a

2658
01:53:42,169 --> 01:53:39,739
metaphysical Dimension to it a a

2659
01:53:45,050 --> 01:53:42,179
transpersonal dimension to it the

2660
01:53:49,430 --> 01:53:45,060
technology uh it functions with

2661
01:53:51,410 --> 01:53:49,440
telepathy uh in a form of a subtle uh

2662
01:53:53,750 --> 01:53:51,420
energy fields and stuff that they do not

2663
01:53:55,189 --> 01:53:53,760
understand they can't they don't know

2664
01:53:57,290 --> 01:53:55,199
how to make it work

2665
01:53:58,729 --> 01:53:57,300
well I mean all this hoop a lot you know

2666
01:53:59,990 --> 01:53:58,739
about you know we got a secret space

2667
01:54:01,790 --> 01:54:00,000
program we've been flying these things

2668
01:54:04,189 --> 01:54:01,800
around it didn't decide no that's true

2669
01:54:06,290 --> 01:54:04,199
all that Corey good stuff and and all

2670
01:54:08,750 --> 01:54:06,300
that stuff is not true you know the the

2671
01:54:12,350 --> 01:54:08,760
fact is they're buffaloed by this stuff

2672
01:54:14,629 --> 01:54:12,360
is so it's so far beyond uh their

2673
01:54:17,450 --> 01:54:14,639
technology that they can't they can't

2674
01:54:18,950 --> 01:54:17,460
figure out how to make it work uh so

2675
01:54:21,350 --> 01:54:18,960
it's not that they've got it and they're

2676
01:54:23,330 --> 01:54:21,360
they're hiding it uh you know they're

2677
01:54:24,530 --> 01:54:23,340
they're still they're hiding it and

2678
01:54:27,590 --> 01:54:24,540
trying to figure out how to make it work

2679
01:54:30,649 --> 01:54:27,600
as a weapon or or some kind of a fighter

2680
01:54:33,109 --> 01:54:30,659
a special fighter craft of some sort I

2681
01:54:35,030 --> 01:54:33,119
mean it's it's uh as I said you've heard

2682
01:54:36,770 --> 01:54:35,040
me say that it's like the old Sufi

2683
01:54:39,050 --> 01:54:36,780
saying you know that when a pickpocket

2684
01:54:40,430 --> 01:54:39,060
meets a saint all he sees are his

2685
01:54:42,169 --> 01:54:40,440
pockets

2686
01:54:44,810 --> 01:54:42,179
you know and so that they've gotten

2687
01:54:46,250 --> 01:54:44,820
riveted on this technology and that

2688
01:54:49,129 --> 01:54:46,260
they're fixated with the technology

2689
01:54:51,350 --> 01:54:49,139
about how to how to you know bolster the

2690
01:54:53,090 --> 01:54:51,360
technology and make it into a weapon for

2691
01:54:55,250 --> 01:54:53,100
the the value of their own nation state

2692
01:54:58,550 --> 01:54:55,260
of the United States government you know

2693
01:55:00,229 --> 01:54:58,560
in the and that's it's myopic it's

2694
01:55:02,510 --> 01:55:00,239
incredibly short-sighted

2695
01:55:04,490 --> 01:55:02,520
and so that the but they don't know how

2696
01:55:06,950 --> 01:55:04,500
to make it work and they can't fly it

2697
01:55:08,149 --> 01:55:06,960
they they can try to replicate some

2698
01:55:09,890 --> 01:55:08,159
things about it they're going to try to

2699
01:55:11,209 --> 01:55:09,900
imitate it or whatever they're doing you

2700
01:55:12,950 --> 01:55:11,219
know but they're but they're not they

2701
01:55:14,810 --> 01:55:12,960
haven't mastered this stuff yet you know

2702
01:55:17,390 --> 01:55:14,820
in in on this you know with Stephen

2703
01:55:20,090 --> 01:55:17,400
Greer and I fundamentally disagree on

2704
01:55:21,410 --> 01:55:20,100
this you know Stephen just hypothesizes

2705
01:55:22,550 --> 01:55:21,420
that they've got it all figured out and

2706
01:55:24,890 --> 01:55:22,560
they've been flying these things around

2707
01:55:27,410 --> 01:55:24,900
for all this time and that most of the

2708
01:55:29,510 --> 01:55:27,420
sightings are are not even really uh

2709
01:55:31,010 --> 01:55:29,520
extraterrestrial you know but I don't

2710
01:55:34,189 --> 01:55:31,020
agree with that I mean I could be wrong

2711
01:55:36,649 --> 01:55:34,199
but I don't think I'm wrong uh and so

2712
01:55:40,669 --> 01:55:36,659
that the bottom the bottom line is is

2713
01:55:43,729 --> 01:55:40,679
that the the I I think that Marshall uh

2714
01:55:46,070 --> 01:55:43,739
Marsha Summers raises a very important

2715
01:55:48,590 --> 01:55:46,080
question that we as a human family have

2716
01:55:52,550 --> 01:55:48,600
to answer here he's saying that look

2717
01:55:55,790 --> 01:55:52,560
beware beware of strangers bearing gifts

2718
01:55:57,410 --> 01:55:55,800
here you know of of a an

2719
01:55:59,930 --> 01:55:57,420
extraterrestrial civilization coming in

2720
01:56:02,270 --> 01:55:59,940
saying oh look I will I will I will help

2721
01:56:04,430 --> 01:56:02,280
you here you know I'll I'll give you a

2722
01:56:06,649 --> 01:56:04,440
little bit of Technology here and get

2723
01:56:08,209 --> 01:56:06,659
you over this hump here and and I I've

2724
01:56:10,729 --> 01:56:08,219
told the story Lou and I have told the

2725
01:56:13,310 --> 01:56:10,739
story before the Senators that

2726
01:56:15,109 --> 01:56:13,320
what we need to know is that this this

2727
01:56:17,870 --> 01:56:15,119
is the story of the little boy in the

2728
01:56:20,990 --> 01:56:17,880
butterfly uh that that there was a

2729
01:56:23,330 --> 01:56:21,000
little boy that that loved butterflies

2730
01:56:24,890 --> 01:56:23,340
and he had a big like little Aviary

2731
01:56:27,770 --> 01:56:24,900
thing out in his backyard where all the

2732
01:56:29,090 --> 01:56:27,780
butterflies lived in this big old uh big

2733
01:56:31,790 --> 01:56:29,100
gigantic cage where they could fly

2734
01:56:34,189 --> 01:56:31,800
around and he was he was looking for a

2735
01:56:36,590 --> 01:56:34,199
perfect specimen uh you know to have a

2736
01:56:39,050 --> 01:56:36,600
monarch butterfly and he finally found a

2737
01:56:41,030 --> 01:56:39,060
cocoon of a little monarch butterfly uh

2738
01:56:42,770 --> 01:56:41,040
and he brought it home and he put it in

2739
01:56:44,030 --> 01:56:42,780
a little box with cotton in it and put a

2740
01:56:46,129 --> 01:56:44,040
little lights on and kept it nice and

2741
01:56:48,109 --> 01:56:46,139
warm and monitored the whole thing and

2742
01:56:50,209 --> 01:56:48,119
watched it develop and finally it

2743
01:56:52,370 --> 01:56:50,219
started develop and it grew and it

2744
01:56:54,350 --> 01:56:52,380
started to break out in the the

2745
01:56:57,290 --> 01:56:54,360
butterfly struggled and struggled and

2746
01:57:00,050 --> 01:56:57,300
was breaking out of the Cocoon and was

2747
01:57:02,390 --> 01:57:00,060
struggling against the last tiny thin

2748
01:57:04,189 --> 01:57:02,400
silken thread of the Cocoon it was

2749
01:57:05,689 --> 01:57:04,199
struggling mightily against it the

2750
01:57:07,609 --> 01:57:05,699
little boy washed it and watched it and

2751
01:57:08,750 --> 01:57:07,619
he felt so bad about this then he

2752
01:57:10,790 --> 01:57:08,760
finally got a little pair of scissors

2753
01:57:13,490 --> 01:57:10,800
and he clipped the last little silken

2754
01:57:15,229 --> 01:57:13,500
thread and the Butterfly came free and

2755
01:57:16,750 --> 01:57:15,239
it was the most perfect specimen of a

2756
01:57:20,209 --> 01:57:16,760
monarch butterfly you could ever see

2757
01:57:22,189 --> 01:57:20,219
except that it could never fly

2758
01:57:25,070 --> 01:57:22,199
because it turns out that the struggling

2759
01:57:27,410 --> 01:57:25,080
against that last silken thread was

2760
01:57:29,570 --> 01:57:27,420
necessary to develop the muscle

2761
01:57:32,270 --> 01:57:29,580
structure that the butterfly needed in

2762
01:57:34,669 --> 01:57:32,280
order to be able to fly and so for us

2763
01:57:36,709 --> 01:57:34,679
we're at this moment here with our human

2764
01:57:39,950 --> 01:57:36,719
family where we're struggling against

2765
01:57:43,070 --> 01:57:39,960
the not just silken threads of our own

2766
01:57:45,290 --> 01:57:43,080
creation but but entire ropes that we've

2767
01:57:47,629 --> 01:57:45,300
tied around ourselves of fighting with

2768
01:57:50,450 --> 01:57:47,639
each other and putting resources into

2769
01:57:52,250 --> 01:57:50,460
weapons and and and being racially

2770
01:57:54,589 --> 01:57:52,260
Prejudiced and gender Prejudice and

2771
01:57:56,930 --> 01:57:54,599
everything that we're at a particular

2772
01:58:00,290 --> 01:57:56,940
stage right now where we have to evolve

2773
01:58:03,050 --> 01:58:00,300
we have to evolve in order to reach up

2774
01:58:04,910 --> 01:58:03,060
into the Stars here uh and this is this

2775
01:58:07,490 --> 01:58:04,920
is an extraordinary moment that we have

2776
01:58:09,290 --> 01:58:07,500
here and so we have to supplement this

2777
01:58:11,270 --> 01:58:09,300
work that's being done by this narrow

2778
01:58:14,089 --> 01:58:11,280
office as important as it is to look

2779
01:58:17,089 --> 01:58:14,099
into the UFO phenomena to surround it

2780
01:58:19,490 --> 01:58:17,099
with with a philosophical theological

2781
01:58:22,129 --> 01:58:19,500
metaphysical set of discussions about

2782
01:58:25,129 --> 01:58:22,139
our whole human family and so that we

2783
01:58:26,750 --> 01:58:25,139
can transcend our own self-imposed

2784
01:58:29,030 --> 01:58:26,760
constraints on our on our our

2785
01:58:32,990 --> 01:58:29,040
possibilities here and that's what

2786
01:58:35,629 --> 01:58:33,000
that's what the the 501c3 the UFO C3 is

2787
01:58:36,530 --> 01:58:35,639
hopefully going to be uh and there are

2788
01:58:38,689 --> 01:58:36,540
people that are stepping forward

2789
01:58:40,070 --> 01:58:38,699
insisting that we put this together it's

2790
01:58:41,870 --> 01:58:40,080
not going to be just me that's going to

2791
01:58:43,609 --> 01:58:41,880
do it I have to reach out and talk with

2792
01:58:45,530 --> 01:58:43,619
with all of our people and all of our

2793
01:58:48,050 --> 01:58:45,540
friends that we've made down over the

2794
01:58:50,810 --> 01:58:48,060
last 50 years of working together to try

2795
01:58:53,330 --> 01:58:50,820
to overcome our own our own internal

2796
01:58:54,950 --> 01:58:53,340
challenges in our own Community uh to be

2797
01:58:57,229 --> 01:58:54,960
able to help our larger Community here

2798
01:58:59,089 --> 01:58:57,239
in the United United States and on our

2799
01:59:01,430 --> 01:58:59,099
whole planet you know that that's what's

2800
01:59:03,589 --> 01:59:01,440
really going on here Jimmy uh but but

2801
01:59:06,229 --> 01:59:03,599
this is the moment you know this this

2802
01:59:08,689 --> 01:59:06,239
focus on this this uh office is being

2803
01:59:10,669 --> 01:59:08,699
set up by the defense department in the

2804
01:59:12,709 --> 01:59:10,679
United States Congress and the Senate is

2805
01:59:14,209 --> 01:59:12,719
going to be extremely important and uh

2806
01:59:16,490 --> 01:59:14,219
you know I want to I want to work with

2807
01:59:18,290 --> 01:59:16,500
everybody that we possibly can to

2808
01:59:21,169 --> 01:59:18,300
cooperate on this

2809
01:59:23,089 --> 01:59:21,179
where can everybody reach out if they if

2810
01:59:25,669 --> 01:59:23,099
they if they want to help or or get

2811
01:59:28,430 --> 01:59:25,679
involved well they can contact they can

2812
01:59:31,250 --> 01:59:28,440
contact me at the Romero Institute uh

2813
01:59:33,410 --> 01:59:31,260
it's named after Oscar Romero uh the the

2814
01:59:35,089 --> 01:59:33,420
Catholic priest who was murdered down in

2815
01:59:37,490 --> 01:59:35,099
El Salvador trying to help poor people

2816
01:59:40,370 --> 01:59:37,500
you know because the Romero Institute is

2817
01:59:42,890 --> 01:59:40,380
a 501c3 public interest organization we

2818
01:59:44,750 --> 01:59:42,900
have a wholly integrated auxiliary

2819
01:59:47,089 --> 01:59:44,760
project which is a new paradigm project

2820
01:59:49,430 --> 01:59:47,099
but that's not that's not going to be

2821
01:59:52,250 --> 01:59:49,440
the home of the C3 we're going to set up

2822
01:59:54,229 --> 01:59:52,260
a completely independent 501c3 in

2823
01:59:57,490 --> 01:59:54,239
cooperation with all of our friends but

2824
02:00:01,510 --> 01:59:57,500
they can reach me at uh at the

2825
02:00:03,729 --> 02:00:01,520
daniel.shian at Romero Institute

2826
02:00:05,770 --> 02:00:03,739
r-o-m-e-r-o

2827
02:00:11,629 --> 02:00:05,780
institute.org

2828
02:00:13,250 --> 02:00:11,639
I will I will get back to everybody and

2829
02:00:15,649 --> 02:00:13,260
try to get people involved in the

2830
02:00:17,270 --> 02:00:15,659
conversation so that we can set up the

2831
02:00:19,669 --> 02:00:17,280
office in Los Angeles people are

2832
02:00:22,129 --> 02:00:19,679
offering us a facility down there a big

2833
02:00:24,470 --> 02:00:22,139
facility that we can we can use and

2834
02:00:26,149 --> 02:00:24,480
staff up they're offering us funds to

2835
02:00:29,209 --> 02:00:26,159
put it together I have to put together

2836
02:00:30,530 --> 02:00:29,219
the administration of the thing and the

2837
02:00:32,689 --> 02:00:30,540
Coalition of people that would be

2838
02:00:35,089 --> 02:00:32,699
advisors to this and I want us all to

2839
02:00:37,010 --> 02:00:35,099
remain completely friendly and and

2840
02:00:40,129 --> 02:00:37,020
leaning into getting this thing to

2841
02:00:41,570 --> 02:00:40,139
succeed uh this UFO C3 that we're gonna

2842
02:00:46,209 --> 02:00:41,580
we're gonna be putting together but they

2843
02:00:48,649 --> 02:00:46,219
can reach me at the daniel.shian at

2844
02:00:50,330 --> 02:00:48,659
romeroinstitute.org Danny thank you so

2845
02:00:53,030 --> 02:00:50,340
much I'm going to be hanging out with

2846
02:00:55,550 --> 02:00:53,040
you uh in a couple of months at uh if

2847
02:00:57,169 --> 02:00:55,560
Expo once again this year right it's

2848
02:01:00,169 --> 02:00:57,179
going to be amazing uh hopefully I'll

2849
02:01:01,790 --> 02:01:00,179
see you before then you will just just

2850
02:01:03,709 --> 02:01:01,800
thank you my friend for everything that

2851
02:01:05,870 --> 02:01:03,719
you do far out thank you for everything

2852
02:01:07,250 --> 02:01:05,880
you do and for everybody out there I

2853
02:01:08,930 --> 02:01:07,260
really I really appreciate getting a

2854
02:01:11,149 --> 02:01:08,940
chance to chat with you you're the

2855
02:01:14,209 --> 02:01:11,159
absolute best Danny Sheen and again

2856
02:01:16,550 --> 02:01:14,219
everybody can reach out to Danny at the

2857
02:01:19,550 --> 02:01:16,560
Romero Institute and the links for that

2858
02:01:21,530 --> 02:01:19,560
are below Danny behave and be well my

2859
02:01:24,609 --> 02:01:21,540
friend I will thank you so much Jimmy

2860
02:01:27,970 --> 02:01:24,619
thank you so much Danny Sheehan

2861
02:01:30,169 --> 02:01:27,980
incredible conversation tonight

2862
02:01:31,790 --> 02:01:30,179
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